Spoilers Alien: Earth Spoiler Thread

[Snarf Zagyg]

I understand what the writers are getting at, but I don't believe it - for me great writing doesn't take me out of the story. I think it makes his character cartoonish.

....well, my rejoinder to that is .... waves arms at the round around ... have you been seeing what is going on? Maybe it's just me, but fiction isn't as weird as real life, and I'd argue that he's not as cartoonish as some of the examples we can easily find of the superrich in reality.

And in his case, he's a trillionaire, and the sole owner of one of the five corporations. So ... I totally buy it. More believable than the stuff I see in the news, I guess.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Eh, I just watched season 4 of Fargo. It's not good. Otherwise, I agree with you. But I can;t call a series a masterpiece that has that season in it. The first two episodes of this series are promising but there is a lot of style over substance happening.

Most people argue that Season 4 is the worst season of Fargo, and Season 5 is a return to form.

I ... well, my first reaction to that is that if S4 is the worst, that's a pretty indicator of the quality. If you think of any series that has five+ seasons, I think you'll be hard-pressed to find any other one that doesn't have a season that is worse than S4 of Fargo. If you don't believe me, go through any standard list of "Top 20" shows and you'll see. Most shows either have a really bad season at the beginning, or more likely, a bunch at the end. Most of the exceptions are three- and four- season shows. I've done this exercise before.

As for me, I happen to agree that it's the least of the seasons, but I disagree that it is bad. I'd argue it's actually pretty good- but I think that the tonal shift and different focus alienated some viewers who wanted more of what 1-3 served.

If anything, I'd argue that the main reason it is just a shade below the other seasons wasn't the ambition, the acting, or even the shift- it was the pacing. But it didn't make it bad; just not quite as good as 1-3, 5.

Personally, my order would be ...
S2
S5
S1
S3
S4

But I'm open to arguments. Most people liked S5, but I really thought it was amazing. But that's, just, my opinion man.

 

[el-remmen]

Most people argue that Season 4 is the worst season of Fargo, and Season 5 is a return to form.

I ... well, my first reaction to that is that if S4 is the worst, that's a pretty indicator of the quality. If you think of any series that has five+ seasons, I think you'll be hard-pressed to find any other one that doesn't have a season that is worse than S4 of Fargo. If you don't believe me, go through any standard list of "Top 20" shows and you'll see. Most shows either have a really bad season at the beginning, or more likely, a bunch at the end. Most of the exceptions are three- and four- season shows. I've done this exercise before.

As for me, I happen to agree that it's the least of the seasons, but I disagree that it is bad. I'd argue it's actually pretty good- but I think that the tonal shift and different focus alienated some viewers who wanted more of what 1-3 served.

If anything, I'd argue that the main reason it is just a shade below the other seasons wasn't the ambition, the acting, or even the shift- it was the pacing. But it didn't make it bad; just not quite as good as 1-3, 5.

Personally, my order would be ...
S2
S5
S1
S3
S4

But I'm open to arguments. Most people liked S5, but I really thought it was amazing. But that's, just, my opinion man.

Is this in the right thread?

Anyway, every single season of Fargo is amazing and not sure what to make of anyone who liked the show enough to watch all five season saying any of them is bad.