Spoilers The Pitt Season 2 Discussion

[VashVet]

Sure...but you are making the leap that they are choices "against women". I don't see that.

Sorry, I don’t feel that’s a leap. Pretty much all I have left to say about that.

 

[VashVet]

Interesting take from Sepideh Moafi on the behind the scenes for her character’s face-off with Dr. Robby:

https://parade.com/tv/the-pitt-sepideh-moafi-season-2-finale-al-hashimi-seizures-secret-cut-scene-interview

 

[Retros_x]

I don’t think that’s reading too much. Not reporting a teenager because you’re worried about his future despite his written threats towards girls in his class is certainly a CHOICE. Calling out Mohan for a panic attack when he himself had one on the job is another clear indicator. It’s a definite pattern in my eyes.

Again, he also does similar things to male coworkers. There is a pattern, yes, but its not a sexist one, but I would say the pattern is that he often fails what he preaches himself, especially in s2. He chews people out, calls them out in often a very direct and rude matter. S2 clearly portrays him at good at heart but in dire need of therapy. It also shows that his team suffers. I loved the contrast to the nightshift with their little chanting to kick-off the shift. They seem much more like as sworn-in team, quite contrary to Robbies dayshift who all suffer under him. His team being a majority of women make this look like sexism, but its just because of the numbers and honestly I think he would be exactly the same if he had an all-men team.

But there is definitely wiggle-room. The writers could go in the direction of underlying sexism in Robbies action, but honestly I would need then a bit more of that specificially in S3, a bit more contrast of how he treats men vs women.

 

[trappedslider]

Again, he also does similar things to male coworkers. There is a pattern, yes, but its not a sexist one, but I would say the pattern is that he often fails what he preaches himself, especially in s2.

Langdon called Robby out over this behavior.

What have they left? I beleive you I just want to see if I can dig in and find out about those things.

mostly patient outcomes, I also wonder if the day in Nov will include Santos' self harm she did pocket a scalpel or if it will be taken care off screen.

At best we'll get references or acknowledgements, at worst it won't be referenced at all.

 

[Umbran]

Calling out Mohan for a panic attack when he himself had one on the job is another clear indicator.

So, there are bad interactions men can initiate with women that aren't sexism. If there had been a third doctor who had panic attacks, a dude that that he let slide, that would be a more clear indicator.

But lashing out at someone else who has a behavior you hate in yourself? That is a common human behavior, regardless of the gender of the target. It looks like hypocrisy, but it is actually an expression of self-loathing.

We have several instances of him chewing out other men for other failures, so I don't know if there's a strong case for him being sexist.

 

[VashVet]

So, there are bad interactions men can initiate with women that aren't sexism. If there had been a third doctor who had panic attacks, a dude that that he let slide, that would be a more clear indicator.

But lashing out at someone else who has a behavior you hate in yourself? That is a common human behavior, regardless of the gender of the target. It looks like hypocrisy, but it is actually an expression of self-loathing.

We have several instances of him chewing out other men for other failures, so I don't know if there's a strong case for him being sexist.

Individually, I would agree but I’m also looking across both seasons. As with much of The Pitt’s storylines, the first season’s clash with McKay over whether someone should be reported for having a hit list had to reference real life where young male violence often gets a pass. Robby was presented as taking one side of that argument. But when you take all of these incidents in their totality, I come away with a different feeling. I think it’s a blind spot in the character’s personality. Hypocrisy combined with sexism. It’s at least been noted by the actress playing Dr Al-Hashimi that she was considering that angle as fuel for her final scene with Robby, so I think it’s definitely a layer for the viewer to consider as well.

 

[Stalker0]

But when you take all of these incidents in their totality, I come away with a different feeling.

This is actually the problem I have with your argument. Now you are correct that there are certain scenes Robby has that....taken in isolation, I could see as sexist.

But again we need to take everything in totality. We have seen Robbie be a dick to women....but we have seen him plenty of times be a dick to men.

We have seen Robbie prop and mentor men....but we have also seen him do it with women.

In totalality, I don't see a Mysoginist guy, I see a guy who is really struggling and lashing out at anyone...male and female alike.

 

[Reef]

This is actually the problem I have with your argument. Now you are correct that there are certain scenes Robby has that....taken in isolation, I could see as sexist.

But again we need to take everything in totality. We have seen Robbie be a dick to women....but we have seen him plenty of times be a dick to men.

We have seen Robbie prop and mentor men....but we have also seen him do it with women.

In totalality, I don't see a Mysoginist guy, I see a guy who is really struggling and lashing out at anyone...male and female alike.

I'd have to agree with this. VashVet, while you are obviously entitled to your personal interpretation, you are cherry picking scenes that support your hypothesis while completely disregarding those that contradict it.

Robbie has shown compassion and contempt for characters on both sides of the gender line, no matter where they falmomnthat line. He's a broken person for sure, but he's not targeting women.

 

[billd91]

One factor to consider that may affect perceptions - Robby has more women physicians under his supervision as senior attending than men. For men, he's got Langdon and Whitaker. For women, he's got Mohan, McKay, Santos, Javadi, King, and, in season one, Collins. As far as generating conflict for a dramatic show featuring a lot of work-related PTSD, he's got somewhere like 3x the opportunities to clash with women than men.