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D&D 5E Is the Tarrasque tough enough?

KarinsDad

Adventurer
It's hard to say on the DC because the guidelines do not cover jumping, but for jumping double what you can normally jump, Hard at DC 20 seems fair. That would give the Tarrasque a 50% success rate.

I think that any creature jumping double its normal maximum should be impossible. 10% increase, sure. DC 20, once in a blue moon.

But double??? The Tarrasque doesn't get any lighter.
 

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EnglishLanguage

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The resemblance is an interesting point. It seems pretty easy to argue that a rock thrown by a Tarrasque resembles a rock thrown by a giant.

Problem is, going this way just opens a can of worms.

For example, Cavalier Bob's Glaive resembles a Barbed Devil's Glaive, so he can "improvise" their Glaive attack for 5 extra damage on each of the enemy's turns.
 

EnglishLanguage

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I think that any creature jumping double its normal maximum should be impossible. 10% increase, sure. DC 20, once in a blue moon.

But double??? The Tarrasque doesn't get any lighter.

With the square/cube law being what it is, the Tarrasque should be lucky he can even walk, much less overhand throw hillsides.
 

jadrax

Adventurer
Problem is, going this way just opens a can of worms.

For example, Cavalier Bob's Glaive resembles a Barbed Devil's Glaive, so he can "improvise" their Glaive attack for 5 extra damage on each of the enemy's turns.

That can has long been opened, though. You already have several creatures (Lizardfolk, Kuo-toa) that have mundane weapons that are not in the standard weapon list, that are presumably lootable.

That said, as a bone Devil is large, I would not say any weapon made for medium sized creatures can really resemble it.
 

EnglishLanguage

First Post
That can has long been opened, though. You already have several creatures (Lizardfolk, Kuo-toa) that have mundane weapons that are not in the standard weapon list, that are presumably lootable.

That said, as a bone Devil is large, I would not say any weapon made for medium sized creatures can really resemble it.

Eeh, I don't really buy that explanation. Smaller things can very easily resemble larger things. Small and large rocks, small and large cats, small and large people, varying sizes of rubber band balls, etc.
 


Mistwell

Crusty Old Meatwad (he/him)
Hmmm. To reach 110 feet, it would need to jump double what it can automatically. What would be a good DC for that? Is the Tarrasque even coordinated enough to initiate a grapple at the apex of its jump? I am not so sure.

It's a bipedal creature, so it can start by standing up to it's full length, and then jump as a legendary action (jump is a move, you jump 3+str mod of 10, so 13 feet up), and then attack at the apex of it's jump as an action. "You can extend your arms half your height above your self during the jump. Thus, you can reach above you a distance equal to the height of the jump plus 1 1/2 times your height." It would be 70' tall at that point, so it can reach 70+35 (half again height) +13 (the jump) for a total of 118', without a trick. And that's not even counting the reach of it's attack, which arguably is even further than the jump itself.
 

EnglishLanguage

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OK, but if you ignore size, doesn't a Greatsword resemble a Dagger?

*googles images to double check*

Eeh, blade to handle ratio is a little different and blade shapes don't seem very similar. Plus they're used completely differently from each other, so not entirely a fair comparison.
 

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KarinsDad

Adventurer
It's a bipedal creature, so it can start by standing up to it's full length, and then jump as a legendary action (jump is a move, you jump 3+str mod of 10, so 13 feet up), and then attack at the apex of it's jump as an action. "You can extend your arms half your height above your self during the jump. Thus, you can reach above you a distance equal to the height of the jump plus 1 1/2 times your height." It would be 70' tall at that point, so it can reach 70+35 (half again height) +13 (the jump) for a total of 118', without a trick.

Must be the advanced math.

The Tarrasque is 70 feet long, not tall. It's 50 feet tall.

So, 50+15+13 = 78 feet. Reaching above one's head is already counted in normal reach (i.e. 5 feet for humanoids, 15 feet for the Tarrasque claw).

And that's not even counting the reach of it's attack, which arguably is even further than the jump itself.

You already added reach in once. You cannot add it in a second time. Either add in half of the creatures height for reach (25, which would be a houserule), or add in the reach of the monster's claws (15). Unless you are going to claim that it can flip and use its tail for 20 feet. :lol:
 


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