D&D 5E 5th edition monks

Don Durito said:

It's not just monks. Rangers also ought to be good at athletics (and you need a whole lot of strength to shoot a longbow), but unless you're a melee ranger there's just not enough benefit to investing in Strength (You can't afford to max it - and putting 12-14 in Strength is a big investment for one or two points on a single skill.)

And as I mentioned earlier - most Rogues I've seen are poor climbers.

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Morlaf said:

that is definitely the way to making more realistic anything.... charisma is also very problematic.... but with the existing 6 stats 3.5 did a much better job of making monks and offering customizability.....

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Morlaf said:

{...this is especially for those transitioning from 3, 3.5 to 5.}
Dex has always been an important stat. Apart from class-specific stats (e.g. cha for sorcerers) dex is the most over-used stat.
Now I have been playing and running 5th edition for a while and I detest how str has become a dump stat for monks.
i.e. they need str as much as a sorcerer needs it. This is silliness.
Your chance to hit with melee weapons is determined by str because the stronger you are the faster you can move your axe to hit.
Dex determines how accurate you can be to hit specific vitals points. At least that is how the game tries to SIMULATE combat. Fine.
So in 3/3.5 you can take the finesse feat. This obliged you to be careful with selecting feats and it allowed for high-str build monks.
And still damage is determined by str.
Some future source books (unofficial or not?) offered feats to further make dex play a part in damage with finesse weapons. This seems balanced and realistic.
A degree of realism is not a bad thing....

is 5th edition balanced? yeah it probably is. But I have huge beef with 5th edition for doing this.
I take the opportunity to bitch and moan about it all the time and I am in the process of house-ruling certain stuff regarding monks.
I have also made my own Monastic Traditions that offer AS AN OPTION increased combat prowess bast on str.

Any old-skool playaz here (or indeed newbies) that feel the same?

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Undrave said:

You know, I've been meaning to ask... What would a PERFECT Monk look like to you, stat wise? The best representation of what a Monk SHOULD be for you? Using the standard array or point buy method as well as rolling for stats?

Also, I've been thinking on it and I think the simplet way to make sure Monk don't dump STR is pretty easy: Let them use it in place of WIS for Unarmored Defense (and the Stunning Strike DC as well while you're at it). Heck, if you're using standard array or point buy it probably wouldn't be an issue to let them add BOTH STR and WIS to their AC simple because you won't get enough points to exceed what you can do with just DEX and WIS. Not if you also want decent HP, really.

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doctorbadwolf said:

Let them add str mod to HP.

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Undrave said:

You know, I've been meaning to ask... What would a PERFECT Monk look like to you, ? The best representation of what a Monk SHOULD be for you?

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Jd Smith1 said:

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Undrave said:

I mean the stats.

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Jd Smith1 said:

Looks to be about a 34-22-34.

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