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prabe

Tension, apprension, and dissension have begun
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I kind of want to see an AI trained on Gygax rewrite the NFL rule book...
I look forward to how the word "dweomer" will be used, and to some reference to a "quasi-clothoidal inflatable solid" that needs to be moved around the playing surface (which will never be called a "field" because why use one word when two will suffice?).
 

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Snarf Zagyg

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Actually, the best set of game rules typically do include mechanics specifically to handle the case of one player going completely off the walls and screwing things up. This is where we get things like chess clocks, red/yellow cards in sports games, "mercy kill" rules, etc. Even the bankruptcy rules in Monopoly are written a way that technically prevents a player from giving away all their property rather that giving it to the owner of the hotel they just landed on. It's harder for an RPG, but it is possible to build in provisions that prevent...

Xeno: I'd like to invite you play my new RPG, Achilles!

Achilles: Really? That's ... so nice of you Xeno! Especially after what I did last time.

Xeno: Oh, don't worry. I made a rule for that. See, I can design my way around jerks... um, I can design my way around you, Achilles.

Achilles: .......well, thank you Xeno. I guess I'll have to be a bigger jerk!

Xeno: oh no ... what have I done?



The lesson, as always, is that you can have the best rules in the world- even a "No jerk" rule. But there's always a bigger jerk. Because the rules can't enforce themselves.
 


Xeno: I'd like to invite you play my new RPG, Achilles!

Achilles: Really? That's ... so nice of you Xeno! Especially after what I did last time.

Xeno: Oh, don't worry. I made a rule for that. See, I can design my way around jerks... um, I can design my way around you, Achilles.

Achilles: .......well, thank you Xeno. I guess I'll have to be a bigger jerk!

Xeno: oh no ... what have I done?



The lesson, as always, is that you can have the best rules in the world- even a "No jerk" rule. But there's always a bigger jerk. Because the rules can't enforce themselves.

The problem with Zeno as GM is his sessions literally take forever
 


Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
Look, people who want to complain about a tech feature should maybe learn how it works before complaining. Just like people should read the TRPGs they're playing before complaining about those.

But .... what if I want to complain about the DMG?

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Cadence

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Actually, the best set of game rules typically do include mechanics specifically to handle the case of one player going completely off the walls and screwing things up. This is where we get things like chess clocks, red/yellow cards in sports games, "mercy kill" rules, etc. Even the bankruptcy rules in Monopoly are written a way that technically prevents a player from giving away all their property rather that giving it to the owner of the hotel they just landed on. It's harder for an RPG, but it is possible to build in provisions that prevent...

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:oops: I never know how to feel when this thread accidentally slides into legitimate game design discussions.

Does it really count as a rule if it's only in the (post 2e) DMG?
 

CleverNickName

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Look, people who want to complain about a tech feature should maybe learn how it works before complaining. Just like people should read the TRPGs they're playing before complaining about those.
I remember back in 2000, when I picked up a copy of the 3E Player's Handbook for the first time. I got the early early release, the one that had some sample monsters and the CD-ROM in the back. I had barely even skimmed the first two chapters before I started writing my House Rules to "fix" 3E.

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In my defense, that was 23 years ago and I was an insufferable 25-year old know-it-all. Still, I should have known better. Step 1 of anything is "read the instructions."
 
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