Spoilers Doctor Who s15 (or 2) [[spoilers!]]


log in or register to remove this ad

I would have thought that the line "We are all stories in the end, just make it a good one, eh?" would have fit in perfectly given the theme of this episode.
 


How does The Doctor remember The Fugitive Doctor?

I'm glad we've finally gotten a new writer, but this episode was completely pointless. Even if the lore brought up in it matters in the finale it won't be worth it because the god lore introduced is complete and utter nonsense. Their attempts at standardization are like trying to shove a pineapple into a matchbox.

Seriously, rewatch Lux and then say that Lux Imperator fits the same mold as The Maestro. Or The Toymaker. Or Sutekh. The gods need people to keep telling their stories but every single one we have seen either wants to kill everyone or would have that be the end result of their plans. And apparently we NEED them?

"God" should not be a thing with a standard definition and set powers and weaknesses in Doctor Who. Magical gods are not real in Doctor Who. Beings who call themselves gods or who are worshiped as gods are real, but it's been repeatedly pointed out they're not actual gods.

This episode utterly failed to demonstrate the consequences/stakes. I am sick and tired of "Because we say so" writing. Show, don't tell. I know RTD and Moffat have outright said they're relying on exposition because streaming means people are listening to the show while doing other things, but this is just so bad.

How come The Barber being abused justifies his knowing and purposeful attempted genocide and the destruction of Earth? "Hurt people hurt people" is complete and utter nonsense used to excuse abusers because the people claiming it think a tragic backstory justifies any response regardless of how disproportionate or if it even is aimed at the people responsible.

The 15th Doctor has yet to actually do anything for the past two seasons. He doesn't come up with clever plans, he lucks into a solution every single time.

The way this episode talks about stories feels like the showrunners and writers stroking their own ego, it's completely unearned.

The story engine is a great way of pointing out the issues with AI. It can't create anything new, it has to constantly feed on new stories to keep going.

I think we're getting another Empire of Death-level ending. Nothing matters, nothing is consistent, the protagonists don't change, and there's no reason to care because the next season will wipe everything away again.

It's incredibly hypocritical for Moffat and RTD to put out an episode about a creative denied recognition for his work considering how they've treated people.

I want Chibnall back. At least it felt like he put effort in and he never laughed at the audience while calling himself a genius.
OH god no. He killed the show with the absolute Narcississtic need to outdo himself every episode till it just felt stupid.

I simply want good writers and a director that is ok just making good shows and hoping for great ones instead of trying so hard to make great ones he misfires more than he doesn't. That being said him being gone didn't make the writing any better. The last 3 doctors have been great actors that have had to cover some really bad scripts. I think the show would be far better if they cut the budget and went back to an old 70's or 80's formula (not that low budget though. ) and just had fun instead of trying to impress the internet every time.
 

I simply want good writers and a director that is ok just making good shows and hoping for great ones instead of trying so hard to make great ones he misfires more than he doesn't.
The latter perfectly describes RTD and especially Moffat.

Last of the Time Lords, Sherlock, Dracula, Empire of Death, etc.
 



I think RTD started out great and flamed out and that Chibnall was a train wreck. Moffat unfortunantly had to go and intentionally break ever single sacred cow of the show to make the point he was the director. Some fun episodes but he's a big part of the reason the show hasn't recovered . The problem with all three and now disney whoever is directing it is that there is no real continuity. For example for most of the show there were no gods, no fantasy just good old scifi though sometimes scifi that explained myths. Now suddenly we've got a whole season of Dr. Who and the gods. WTF. But I guess we'll just eventually save one strand of the Universal DNA and reboot it again at some point now that Moffat has turned Dr. Who into something with Marvel Universe rules.

The only thing I'll give this latest season is that we seem to be moving back to the Dr being full of hope and a strong desire to make things better. That at least makes it a bit more enjoyable.
 

now that Moffat has turned Dr. Who into something with Marvel Universe rules.
UNIT tower:
1746929543244.png


Stark Tower:
1746929558197.webp
 

RE: No Gods in Doctor Who.

Now granted, sure, most of the time, the Doctor doesn't face Gods. And what constitutes a God is up for some debate. But sufficiently advanced alien, etc. etc..

Xoanon thought it was a God, as did Rassilon and the Dalek Emperor. Kronos the Chronovore might as well be a God, as well as The Bad Wolf, possibly the Guardians of Time. The Gods of Ragnarok call themselves God, and so did Sutekh. I don't recall, but I'm pretty sure Fenric was considered a God as well (or at least claimed to be one).

The Daemons were worshiped as Gods or Demons, ditto for Light (from Ghost Light) and Magnus Greel, and even the Time Lords themselves (by the Minyans, for example). Ditto the Optera, Aggedor, Ti, Akhaten, and Kroll. The Nimons pretended to be Gods. Ten fought The Devil (The Satan Pit). Omega, holding himself together out of sheer will could be considered a God of sorts.

The Doctor himself was seen as a household God in The Fires of Pompeii and the Face of Boe called him "the lonely god". K9 Mark I was worshiped by the Anubians.

And who knows what else I may have missed.

This is not exactly a new thing to the franchise.
 

Remove ads

Top