We don't mean to discourage you Knightfall, it's just that it's the sad truth. There are many games that have lasted a long time and are still running on these boards. (Unfortunately I'm not part of them) I'm not completely sure what to attribute the cause of all the failed games to. Many things really, but from what I've witnessed in the past the blame seems to always fall squarely on the person DM'ing the game. It is allowed to fall apart and the players themselves get discouraged and go off to seek greener pastures. I've read a lot of game threads that I have not been a part of just for the fun of it on occasion and the biggest excuse I see from DM & player is something school/work/family related. I for one am beginning to get tired of this excuse. It's worn out. I go to college full time, and maybe it's because my major centers around computers, but I always find the time to check these boards out and post. It's not a big deal for me. I sometimes catch these same DMs/players posting all over the place in General Discussion or other parts of the board at the same time they are laying out these excuses. Do they really think the people they dish these out too are so stupid, that they don't realize they are being pushed aside by pure laziness or by someone who's lost all interest in their game? I don't mean to rant here or cause a problem, as most everyone I've met here on the boards seem to be great people, but the ones that are guilty of letting their games die off really need to wake up and fix things or not even start the game to begin with if they have no intention of seeing it through to the end. Again I apologize, but I just figured all this had to be said, as I'm sure that many others on this board share my sentiments.