D&D 5E 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

[Hohige]

Okay, I get to pick? It takes you 1 month to travel from your base to the assassination location. You're down to a handful of sircery points and a handful of low level spell slots.

Or, can you actually engage the question of how you have a super-secret super-warded base but have to travel to assassination locations? You've mentioned a demi-plane, but that's a problem with planeshift. Teleport has issues as well. How are ypu getting from base to ambush location?

hahaha, so it's perfect, the material plane without Wizards and schools of magic destroyed. Wizards that have not been killed are hidden. The Bastion is the sovereign of the world.
The Bastion kicked them.

 

[Earth2Carnifex]

hahaha, so it's perfect, the material plane without Wizards and schools of magic destroyed. Wizards that have not been killed are hidden. The Bastion is the sovereign of the world.
The Bastion kicked them.

Except the Foggy Bottom Illusionists Guild, seems you still have not found a single member. You also seem to be having other problems, like your government does not seem to be able to function, because most of your tax money is lost in fraud waste and abuse. Thirty percent of the population is convinced you are an incompetent grifter, with some strange fetishes and someone keeps impersonating you and doing outlandish things, the impersonator does not even look like you, but since no one knows what you actually look like, everyone is pretty convinced it is you. Anytime you try to track said imposter down, he simply vanishes and shows up somewhere else.

 

[Hohige]

Except the Foggy Bottom Illusionists Guild, seems you still have not found a single member. You also seem to be having other problems, like your government does not seem to be able to function, because most of your tax money is lost in fraud waste and abuse. Thirty percent of the population is convinced you are an incompetent grifter, with some strange fetishes and someone keeps impersonating you and doing outlandish things, the impersonator does not even look like you, but since no one knows what you actually look like, everyone is pretty convinced it is you. Anytime you try to track siad imposter down, he simply vamishes and shows up somewhere else.

Why do you think illusionists are saved?

 

[Earth2Carnifex]

Why do you think illusionists are saved?

An old Illusionist saying "Reality is what I say it is."

 

[Ovinomancer]

hahaha, so it's perfect, the material plane without Wizards and schools of magic destroyed. Wizards that have not been killed are hidden. The Bastion is the sovereign of the world.
The Bastion kicked them.

This is incoherent and doesn't answer the question. How do you get from your safe base where to prep for days to the assassination spot?

 

[Hohige]

An old Illusionist saying "Reality is what I say it is."

The Bastion saying: A new statue.

 

[Earth2Carnifex]

The Bastion saying: A new statue.

Good luck finding an illusionist who does not want to be found.

 

[Hohige]

Good luck finding an illusionist who does not want to be found.

At that point in the thread, we have Mighty Wizards afraid to leave the house against just 1 Sorcerer.
Also, I can't see nothing special with Illusionists.

 

[Earth2Carnifex]

At that point in the thread, we have Mighty Wizards afraid to leave the house against just 1 Sorcerer.
Also, I can't see nothing special with Illusionists.

If I were you, I would be more concerned about why your government is buying 600GP Spears on a no bid contract.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

So, come on.
Since you don’t want to send a list of prepared spells, you don’t have any spells you didn’t mention (It’s easy to have more than Theorical 600 spells available, right ?, but you can only prepare 22).

Fair enough. She isn't casting spell except the one mentionned anyway.

What I find funny is this Cha based Wizard with 80 HP and ridiculous 14 from Int.

"Among its trait, she gets the Ever Hospitable, giving her +1d4 to Persuasion checks. She's of course racially Lucky.
As a Wizard, She took as a signature spell Enhance Ability, casting Eagle's Splendor on herself every hour on the clock."

Here is your biggest mistake and the cause of your death. You visibly cast spells to manipulate creatures. Easily identifiable and this will lead to hostility. No matter what you say, if a creature is constantly casting spells to manipulate the creatures, it will generate clear hostility and likely death.

Policemen around the world routinely prevent hostile actions from the crows and they are not generally generating hostility and are rarely killed, contrary to what you claim.

"With a Persuasion check done with advantage (thanks through constant Enhance Ability), adding 1d4+12 (expertise) +5 (CHA) to the roll. That's an average of 34. When she really needed to calm things down, she Wishes for Glibness to ensure rolls between 33-37. It only took a very brief interview for the Council to appoint her..."

All spells you cast are visible, declaring obvious magical manipulation. Shanta is dead.
Without visible casting glibness spell, you have 1d4 +12 +5. It's 18~38+1d4.
The Sorcerer has 12+3, Trance of Order, Magical Guidance and Advantage. It's 25~35 with Magical Guidance and Advantage for 4d20.
The Sorcerer is clear better.
It's for Persuation, Intimidation and Deception.
Also, can manipulate creatures with Subtle Mass Suggestion, Subtle Dominate Person, Subtle Detect Through.

Persuasion isn't an opposed check, it's a set DC. Since you advocated DC 15 for convincing someone to kill schoolfriend in post #802, that's the DC to beat. Which is automatic with 1d20+17+1d4 and advantage. The build was made to demonstrate the silliness of your proposed DC (and generally, your stance on how social skills work by a demonstartion ad absurdum. Casting spells is totally useless to convince people since you argued that you could do better than Dominate Person with a simple Persuasion roll vs DC 15.

The winner here is easy right?

Yes, it's the vast majority of people who didn't buy your bizarre reading of social skills in D&D.

"She's allowed to be followed by a Simulacrum of a Bard 20 (College of Lore) who plays music and stands ready to grant Bardic Inspiration (d12) and cast Guidance (+1d4) on her if she witnesses a difficult situation, like a new person entering the town despite the wall of fog. Consistently reaching 40+ and with a maximum of 57, she is known to invite newcomers for a polite interview in the underground of the House of Liches, the Foggy Bottom's town hall (formerly known as the House of Elders because there was a time, thankfully past, when wizards actually died of old age)."

Oh gosh, you have a PC simulacrum.
So, Now the Sorcerer can use Twin Simulacrum to have a Simulacrum of Himself and a Assassin level 20.

I think things now start to get even more difficult.


The Death:

With the Enchanter's 80 HP. He's an easy victim.

1) Upcast Subtle Sleep

2) The Bastion's Subtle Empowered Meteor Swarm that is instant kill + Simulacrum empowered subtle Horrid Wilting for instant death easily.

3) The Assassin Simulacrum that Instant Death on you.

When your HP is zero, you will be stabilized to not die and become a statue forever.

Except that per your rules, as soon as you hear her, you abandon all hostile intent. And you can hear her shouting her peace speech from a long way way, Nobody buys that, but you set the rules so... you might want to retract your strange position on social skills.

[Besides,there is no more Bastion since he was disqualified on the basis on cheating on his skill proficiencies. You apparently forgot that.]