Level Up (A5E) 2nd attempt - where to put spell lists? (Poll)

[Morrus]

@tetrasodium, Morrus has said that the spells would also be in a class/level list.

It's either/or, not both.

 

[Faolyn]

It's either/or, not both.

Well, right above you say "These would be organized by class and level" so I'm taking it to mean that, if you stuck them in the back by the spell list, they would be organized there. Obviously you wouldn't need to organize them by class if you put them with the class.

 

[Morrus]

Well, right above you say "These would be organized by class and level" so I'm taking it to mean that, if you stuck them in the back by the spell list, they would be organized there. Obviously you wouldn't need to organize them by class if you put them with the class.

Putting them with the class is organizing them by class.

I'm clearly not able to communicate this concept.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

With the class.

Sure, it might not be done currently. BUT IT SHOULD BE.

It is so infinitely frustrating to have to flip around when you're leveling up. This is an overdue idea.

 

[Maxperson]

Putting them with the class is organizing them by class.

I'm clearly not able to communicate this concept.

I think gamers just tend to overthink things. A lot of time is spent trying to figure out what a line of text might be saying.

 

[Faolyn]

Putting them with the class is organizing them by class.

Right, that's what I said.

I'm assuming that the options are:

Option 1: When you present a spellcasting class, you'd also list their spells, organized by level.

Wizard
Wizards are blah blah. Table o' stuff here.
At 1st level, you get blah. Etc.

Wizard Spell List
Cantrips
Acid Splash
Blade Ward

1st Level
Burning Hands
Catapult

-or-

Option 2: In the back of the book, with the chapter that actually has all the spell details, you'd have all of the spells organized first by class, then by level.

Bard Spell List
Cantrips
Blade Ward
Dancing Lights

1st Level
Animal Friendship
Bane

Wizard Spell List
Cantrips
Acid Splash
Blade Ward

1st Level
Burning Hands
Catapult

Yes?

 

[Morrus]

Yup!

 

[Li Shenron]

I'd like to see some innovation here and try with the spell list together with the class.

One drawback of the traditional "all lists together" is that I still occasionally start looking at the wrong list and don't notice until I have had a couple of "oh, I never noticed X could cast Y" moments.

 

[Lord Mhoram]

In their own section, preferable right before the spell descriptions themselves.

 

[Horwath]

i'm for spell lists in class description, but having both is like 5 pages extra so maybe both could be worth doing.

Also, this is another topic but it's directly connected;
In full description part of spells; in PHB they are sorted by alphabet, all levels together.

Could you please sort them by every level separately?

Cantrip section: all cantrips full descriptions by alphabet.

1st level section: all 1st level spells full descriptions by alphabet.

etc...