D&D 3E/3.5 [3.5] Spells (New & Changes)

[James McMurray]

True, but it can incapacitate them and leave them helpless against a coup de grace

If it can't reduce a stat below 1, how can it incapacitate them?

 

[Pielorinho]

True, but it can incapacitate them and leave them helpless against a coup de grace

Aha! I didn't see that it couldn't reduce a stat below 1; thanks! Dravot, how would it incapacitate an animal if it's not reducing a stat below 1?

Daniel

 

[Technik4]

re: Touch of Idiocy

Sounds like a very good spell; I wonder if there is a higher level physical variant of it, with a saving throw puhhhleeease

Technik

 

[dravot]

Aha! I didn't see that it couldn't reduce a stat below 1; thanks! Dravot, how would it incapacitate an animal if it's not reducing a stat below 1?

Daniel

Doh...my bad. Was thinking of a 0 stat.

 

[hong]

Re: re: Touch of Idiocy

Sounds like a very good spell; I wonder if there is a higher level physical variant of it, with a saving throw puhhhleeease

It's a good thing they banned multiple empowerings, because a doubly- or triply-empowered touch of idiocy could be _very_ nasty indeed.


Hong "oh diddums, poor mr lich can't cast spells any more!" Ooi

 

[Spatzimaus]

Re: Re: re: Touch of Idiocy

It's a good thing they banned multiple empowerings, because a doubly- or triply-empowered touch of idiocy could be _very_ nasty indeed.

Sure, but you can Empower+Maximize it (would that be 6+(1d6/2)?). There are probably other metamagics you can mix in to get around that limit.

The other insidious part is that it lowers his Will save by an average of 2 per casting.

The worst part is, it stacks with itself. So, if the enemy is helpless, you can just hit him with this three or four times until he's a drooling moron, and I'm sure we can all think of some evil strategies for that scenario.

 

[mmu1]

Re: Re: re: Touch of Idiocy

It's a good thing they banned multiple empowerings, because a doubly- or triply-empowered touch of idiocy could be _very_ nasty indeed.


Hong "oh diddums, poor mr lich can't cast spells any more!" Ooi

Although a maximized one is still frighteningly good at stripping away somene's highest-level spells (assuming it's supposed to be balanced with 25 point characters, and core races).

 

[hong]

Looks like I'll be house ruling touch of idiocy to be an enhancement (not untyped) penalty.

 

[Technik4]

Looks like I'll be house ruling touch of idiocy to be an enhancement (not untyped) penalty.

I would name the penalty "idiotic", so it wouldnt stack with feeblemind.

Technik

 

[mmu1]

What sort of confirmation is there that this spell actually exists, by the way?