D&D 5E 5e witches, your preferred implementation?

[d24454_modern]

I think witches should just be warlocks.

I think most kinds of spellcasters should just be warlocks, but it fits witches in particular.

Warlock originally meant "oathbreaker", so you could argue that witch is a horrible term for Warlocks.

 

[Remathilis]

Warlock originally meant "oathbreaker", so you could argue that witch is a horrible term for Warlocks.

If I was designing from the ground up, Witch would be the general term and Warlock it's opposite, like paladin/blackguard.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I love all of the mutually exclusive meanings "witch" and "warlock" have had in this thread. Excellent illustration of the issues.

 

[Shair-afiyun]

having played pathfinder, witch just does feel like it could neatly go into warlock as a sort of mega subclasses. Main difference would be extra invocations specifically tailored to them.

 

[Cadence]

Googling around for other things, I stumbled across this (which has some information from a half page about witches and a few pages of witch NPC class in Dragon #43). The class is by Bill Muhlhausen (revised and edited by Kim Mohan and Tom Moldvay). The small article about witches is by Moldvay.

Tom Moldvay on Witches

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The powers gained at various levels include: Brew poisons and narcotics, Brew truth drug, Brew love potion, Read Magic-User, Druid & Cleric scorlls, Candle Magic, Acquire familiar, Brew flying ointment, Manufacture control doll, Fascinate, Limited Wish, and Shape Change. There is also a full spell list.

 

[MGibster]

Googling around for other things, I stumbled across this (which has some information from a half page about witches and a few pages of witch NPC class in Dragon #43). The class is by Bill Muhlhausen (revised and edited by Kim Mohan and Tom Moldvay). The small article about witches is by Moldvay.

Every time I see Margaret Murry's name pop up in relation to European witches I involuntarily twitch a little. I could certainly live with Muhlhausen's version of the witch in 5E. I'm not sure it's action oriented enough for D&D but it could certainly work.

 

[Twiggly the Gnome]

Googling around for other things, I stumbled across this (which has some information from a half page about witches and a few pages of witch NPC class in Dragon #43). The class is by Bill Muhlhausen (revised and edited by Kim Mohan and Tom Moldvay). The small article about witches is by Moldvay.

Tom Moldvay on Witches

The Other Side Blog is a game design blog from Timothy S. Brannan

theotherside.timsbrannan.com

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The powers gained at various levels include: Brew poisons and narcotics, Brew truth drug, Brew love potion, Read Magic-User, Druid & Cleric scorlls, Candle Magic, Acquire familiar, Brew flying ointment, Manufacture control doll, Fascinate, Limited Wish, and Shape Change. There is also a full spell list.

Sounds like it could be a rustic Artificer subclass, that uses an herbalist kit as their tool-implement.

 

[Bill Zebub]

My vote is for a UA with four Witchy subclasses: one each for Wizard, Druid, Warlock, and Bard.

Ok maybe one for Sorcerer.

 

[Mordhau]

I would only do a witch class for a specific setting.

 

[Remathilis]

My vote is for a UA with four Witchy subclasses: one each for Wizard, Druid, Warlock, and Bard.

Ok maybe one for Sorcerer.

I can see the first three easily, but bard seems a harder sell. What is the witch's type of performance?

I would only do a witch class for a specific setting.

Which setting? We missed the obvious one in Ravenloft, but I guess Tasha was from Oerth...