A "What if you're stuck with Golden Wyvern?" thread

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Although I personally dislike the name, let's say that it comes out in the PHB, and that renaming it is not an option.

Is Jonathan Tweet sitting at my table, and does he have a loaded gun with him?

Otherwise, renaming anything I want is always an option.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Is Jonathan Tweet sitting at my table, and does he have a loaded gun with him?

Otherwise, renaming anything I want is always an option.

It's worse. It will be Mike Mearls that will sit at your touble, and he will not have a loaded gun, but a spoon. Statistically, the spoon will fit into 80% of all humans eye sockets.

The preview books are only sold for money to pay the bills for the Mike Mearls Cloning Facility, so that every gaming group will have one available when they play. The excess money is for the coffee the original Mearls requires to watch the DDI subscribers.

(Of course you could change the names of these orders to whatever you like but this is time consuming.)

Chaning the names of a few orders is time consuming? Compared to building your homebrew and preparing adventures for your group?

 

[IceFractal]

How do I explain why he calls it that? He doesn't call it that. I as a player, call it that, but the character doesn't go referring to his feats by name (unless we're playing OOTS-style).

Now if I decided the Golden Wyvern tradition was a good thing to add to the campaign, then the character might happen to mention that he learned his skill at spell-shaping from them, and possibly have a Golden Wyvern signet ring or something. He still wouldn't shout out "GOLDEN WYVERN ADEPT" whenever he used the feat, though.

 

[WhatGravitas]

It's worse. It will be Mike Mearls that will sit at your touble, and he will not have a loaded gun, but a spoon. Statistically, the spoon will fit into 80% of all humans eye sockets.

Don't forget: Mearls offers shin-kicking for $5.00!

Hmm... as he's now working for WotC, I wonder if I can still book him for shin-kicking...

Cheers, LT.

 

[Imban]

I think the problem in question is that chances are that these orders are going to suddenly start existing in every published D&D campaign world.

 

[Jinete]

Is Jonathan Tweet sitting at my table, and does he have a loaded gun with him?

Otherwise, renaming anything I want is always an option.

I have heard this opinion and the explanation behind it about as many times as I've heard the opposite one.

I
don't
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renaming
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option.

That is why I wrote

Note: this thread is not about bashing the names, or advice how to rename them. Let's say you're stuck with them, and you need to find a clever and creative way to incorporate them in your game.

Please.

 

[Plane Sailing]

Please everyone - stick within the original parameters of the thread laid out in the original post. There are far too many threads with people obsessing over names at the moment, and anything else in this thread about bashing names or renaming them etc is likely to be summarily deleted.

Thanks

 

[Stogoe]

I think the problem in question is that chances are that these orders are going to suddenly start existing in every published D&D campaign world.

Pretty slim chances, I'd say. I'm going to lay down $5(US) of Fake Internet Boasting Money and say that the FR book will have its own Magical Traditions, grown out of existing FR lore, with their own rules in the same model as the ones in the PHB.

 

[GreatLemur]

I don't even use words like "fighter" and "cleric" at the table. I'm confident I'll be able to avoid "Yellow Snow Adept" or whatever.

But if I was actually going to incorporate them, I suppose I'd be using them in a sense similar to martial arts schools: You don't have to be a member of the Wu Tang clan--of even trained by a clan member--to know a few attacks in the Wu Tang style, since many of their secrets might have spread through the martial arts world. There's a good chance that it does say something about your actual training background if the majority of your moves are Wu-Tang-derived, though.

 

[pawsplay]

The idea that I might be stuck with Golden Wyvern Adept is one of the things that makes me hesitant to invest in 4e.