Am I missing something??

[BMF]

Ok, this has probably been discussed plenty of times here before, but I wasn't around then so I missed it.

Looking at table 8-40 of the DMG I can see that a scroll of true strike would cost about 25 gp, which it does. A potion of true strike would cost 50 gp. A wand would cost 750. So far, these things are not game breaking items, right?? Next we consider the bow of true striking in the S&F. It costs 4000 gp and is a trigger activated item.

So, what is stopping me from making a use activated sword of true striking?

It seems like it would work, and wouldn't even be that expensive. Yet no one ever does it. Granted, it is totally unbalancing, but what stops me and other people from doing it??

 

[CRGreathouse]

DM approval. This is the #1 example of things DMs shouldn't allow (followed by the use-activated cure light wounds amulet).

 

[Darkness]

Charles,

Stupid question: What's so much worse about a sword of true strike as compared to a bow of true strike?

 

[Mal Malenkirk]

Stupid question: What's so much worse about a sword of true strike as compared to a bow of true strike?

The possibility of using power attack with it.

 

[Shin Okada]

I do not hav S&F here but I do not see any problem if it were a spell trigger item. You need a standard action to use True Strike. So you attack only once/2 rounds. It is not powerful at all.

 

[Mal Malenkirk]

On a sword, it's not too bad. It's still worth more than 4,000 GP IMO.

On a lance with the spirited charge, OTOH... it's the stuff of which smackdown are made.

 

['o Skoteinos]

He said *use activated*, meaning that with *each attack* you get a +20 insight bonus. So, instead of attacking once every two rounds, he attacks as many times as he can, with +20 to each attack.

Effectively, when put on a longsword, you have a "+20 Longsword" (actually, it's +21, because the masterwork bonus stacks with the insight bonus).

And, for 1 * 1 * 2000 = 2000 GP, how is this not over powered? For 4000, it's still overpowerd. For 100.000 it's still overpowerd (for 100.000 you have a +5 weapon, which, granted, does bypass DR, but does not negate concealment).

I think a DM shouldn't allow this weapon to be made...unless as a major artifact or something equally powerful.

 

[MythandLore]

Charles,

Stupid question: What's so much worse about a sword of true strike as compared to a bow of true strike?

It's pretty darn strong, but...
If your group uses that bow in your game, I think a sword with it would be okay too.
I think to many DMs are to controling, even with power attack it's not that big a deal, at low level you can't PA for that much (it is limited to BAB afterall) and at high level when you can PA for big damage it's going to waste your first round doing it.
One of the players in our game (running RttToEE) has that bow (we are very far in it and he had it from the start), and it really hasn't been that powerful so-far.
But then again some DM's don't even want the players to have Teleport.

 

[Shin Okada]

He said *use activated*

Oh I was missing that part of his statement.

If it is an use-activate Item, no sane DM should allow it. IMHO, all the DMs should be very careful about allowing any use activate items not in DMG.

 

[CRGreathouse]

Stupid question: What's so much worse about a sword of true strike as compared to a bow of true strike?

"Use-activated" would make it much worse.