D&D (2024) Another new interview with Perkins & Wyatt about the 2024 DMG

Micah Sweet

Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
Nope. Because from the TOC it seems that the improtant parts are still in. The guidelines to run a game. But better organized with actually teaching how to be a good DM (so it seems from the previews. I can say more when I read it).

The 2014 book had really nice optional tools in it that I will miss. But it was hard to use at the table if you actually searched something specific.
It was a reference book. For the most part it isn't intended to be used during active play all that much, IMO.
 

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It was a reference book. For the most part it isn't intended to be used during active play all that much, IMO.
What if I had a chase. Had to figure out how fast someone travels? How difficult to open a door with weapons?

It came up often enough so I had to search for it.

Now, some of those rules are actually in the PHB. Right in the beginning.

I am curious how the DMG complements that.
 

Micah Sweet

Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
I'm not against reorganization. I've said that many times.
What if I had a chase. Had to figure out how fast someone travels? How difficult to open a door with weapons?

It came up often enough so I had to search for it.

Now, some of those rules are actually in the PHB. Right in the beginning.

I am curious how the DMG complements that.
 

Minigiant

Legend
Supporter
That it's considered a flaw because people like me don't matter to WotC anymore? I'm aware of that.
It's a flaw to totally focus on one group of DMs.

The 2014 DMG was mostly useless to a new or intermediate DM or a DM whose first edition is 5e. The 2014 DMG was sorta like how some people treat homebrewing in Pathfinder 2: "Don't touch until you ran a few campaigns or you might break it."

The 2024 DMG has stuff for new, old, first edition, and older edition DMs. It's tilted towards certain DMs more but it isn't horribly slanted one way like before.
 
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I'm not against reorganization. I've said that many times.
You also said, you won't purchase a book that is mainly the same stuff shuffeled around. So you want a reorganization but you don't want to buy it?

Do you notice that that is not a good reason for WotC to cater to your taste?

Also: just watched this particular video... the also repeatedly call out in this video that the book is full of stuff for old DMS.
 
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Xamnam

Loves Your Favorite Game
You said the 2014 DMG was helpful to you as a new DM. Why does it need all this extra beginner stuff then? Like I said before, re-organize so you can find everything, don't throw out the rules variants so DMs know they don't have to do exactly what the book says, and there you go.
Because that would have been even more helpful to me, and I'm sure there are people who may have had that intention and then got overwhelmed by how '14 started with building an entire world, or didn't have the benefit of having been a player before and thus having even less of an existing knowledge base.

If I were coming in completely fresh faced, I would definitely assume a thing called the Dungeon Master's Guide would be the resource to start that learning process with. Why wouldn't the guide to being a DM teach me how to be a DM? Even if historically this book has not been that thing, if that is a problem that is consistently happening (and it certainly sounds like it is, both from readers and the writers) for understandable reasons, then addressing that issue is a worthy consideration in this update.
 
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Micah Sweet

Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
Because that would have been even more helpful to me, and I'm sure there are people who may have had that intention and then got overwhelmed by how '14 started with building an entire world, or didn't have the benefit of having been a player before and thus having even less of an existing knowledge base.

If I were coming in completely fresh faced, I would definitely assume a thing called the Dungeon Master's Guide would be the resource to start that learning process with. Why wouldn't the guide to being a DM teach me how to be a DM? Even if historically this book has not been that thing, if that is a problem that is consistently happening (and it certainly sounds like it is, both from readers and the writers) for understandable reasons, then addressing that issue is a worthy consideration in this update.
Understandable. But the DMG has never really been that, and if you're going to change the book to make it that, doing so in the same edition is IMO kinda a jerk move.
 



Sulicius

Adventurer
Understandable. But the DMG has never really been that, and if you're going to change the book to make it that, doing so in the same edition is IMO kinda a jerk move.
There literally is no way to please you, is there?

Why is it a jerk move to make a better book for new players for the edition of a game that has seen the most new players ever? They even make it better for everyone else, since it's better organized.

At some point you must understand that this book isn't for you and leave it at that?
 

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