Another "women" venting thread.

[Eolin]

Yeah. Here's to that. I'm trying a diet, but I'm have trouble. I ate a salad bar yesterday.

An entire salar bar? wow. I don't think that's good for you -- you should eat what you want, and let your body tell you when to stop. So I say, but I'm a crazy hippie.

I've had about 600 calories today, and I'm wondering whether or not to ingest another 300. See, I make the sauce in a one-liter container, and its about 300 calories of maple syrup. And everything else is water and lemon juice, so I figure that's where all the calories come from.

My roomates had Mac n Cheese tonight, and it looked so ... heavy. So solid. It seemed to me that it coudn't possibly be healthy to eat stuff that is solid!

Clearly, I'm speaking at least a little bit in jest. But while the stuff smelled delicious, I had no desire to eat it.

I should make some laxative tea and go to bed.

As for weight loss, I havn't weighed myself today.
2 days ago, I weight 205
Yesterday, 204.
Today, ???
tommorow, we'll see tommorow.

Also, notice that I've been doing a lot of stuff that is decently high-energy requriements while fasting. I helped my folks move and then went on a bike ride 2 nights ago, yesterday I was outside in the hot sun at a basebal game.

I've got *more* energy, not less. Even though I'm ingesting many, many less calories. I don't really know why, what I do know is that I feel good.

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

My weight is hovering around 195 (down from 215 at my fattist), and I want to drop about 10 pounds but don't want to have to amputate anything. I did eat too much at the salad bar and my caloric intake - from cheese, nuts, dressing, etc. - was probably pretty high. These days, mostly I skip breakfast, have rice cakes for lunch and a medium-size dinner.

Where did you hear about the molassis-lemon-pepper fast, and what have been your experiences with it?

 

[Eolin]

Where did you hear about the molassis-lemon-pepper fast, and what have been your experiences with it?

I heard about it first from a dirty hippie friend. She loaned me her copy of the book (which costs like five bucks, and you can order it online. Its stapled.)

From what I understand, molassis and maple syrup are slightly different things -- but I don't know how. I'm going to ask next time I'm at the health food store -- they seem to know that sort of thing.

Anyway, the fast is about cleansing the body of toxins, not so much about weight loss. Weight is just the easiest metric. But it is secondary. What the fast (lemon juice and cayenne pepper) due is to assist the body in the removal of built up toxins. Throw in a nice herbal laxative tea, and the toxins actually get pushed out.

My experiences have been really positive -- the only negative part is that occasionally I'll wake up at 5 AM needing to ... have a movement. Happened this morning, my insides were slightly upset and I had to get to the toilet.

I think I steeped the tea for to long -- I let it steep for 20 minutes instead of 15, so that the water would get cooler. Usually its much more ... gentle.

The first time I did thins I lost something like 20 pounds in ten days, if I recall correctly. And felt fantastic.

As your pallet and even your body have been cleansed of the foods you normally eat with this fast, when you go back to solid foods you can cognitively decide whether or not you like them. Its really a very neat feeling, as you taste it and even if it tastes good, you can make the consciounce decision not to like it -- which for me is based largely on how it makes me feel. For a month or more after I fasted, I didn't eat beef. And only went back because it was extremely expedient, and even so ate much smaller portions. For example, at Braum's I'll now order a sixth pound burger instead of a third pounder. And I'll be full afterwards.

I'm glad to answer any more questions.

 

[Rel]

The first time I did thins I lost something like 20 pounds in ten days, if I recall correctly. And felt fantastic.

I am not a doctor and am in no way qualified to advise people about diet or health. But 20 pounds in 10 days is a VERY rapid rate of weight loss unless the person in question is VERY overweight in the first place. Clearly Eolin survived the experience and feels "fantastic" but that sounds a little scary to me.

YMMV.

 

[Eolin]

I am not a doctor and am in no way qualified to advise people about diet or health. But 20 pounds in 10 days is a VERY rapid rate of weight loss unless the person in question is VERY overweight in the first place. Clearly Eolin survived the experience and feels "fantastic" but that sounds a little scary to me.

YMMV.

From what I understand, about half of it is in foods that are no longer contained in your digestive system. And the rest is in toxins. But again, I'm a tree-hugging hippie.

 

[Darth K'Trava]

I am not a doctor and am in no way qualified to advise people about diet or health. But 20 pounds in 10 days is a VERY rapid rate of weight loss unless the person in question is VERY overweight in the first place. Clearly Eolin survived the experience and feels "fantastic" but that sounds a little scary to me.

YMMV.

I think it's said that weight loss should be done GRADUALLY, not a large amount in a short amount of time.

 

[Nellisir]

From what I understand, molassis and maple syrup are slightly different things -- but I don't know how. I'm going to ask next time I'm at the health food store -- they seem to know that sort of thing.

The quick answer is: maple syrup is made from the sap of maple sugar trees. Molasses is made from sugar cane.

From my quick Google search, it looks like you're probably talking about blackstrap molasses, which is the most concentrated form, and apparently sold as a nutritional supplement. It's also added to animal feed (which explains why our sheep grain always smelled so good).

Grade B maple syrup is the darker, heavier flavored grade (there are 3 kinds of Grade A, and one Grade B). Maple syrup is pretty much just sugar, albeit with some tree juice mixed in. There are no additives or anything else - you just boil down the sap, then boil it again, and again*. Grade B isn't any more concentrated than Grade A; it's just what it is.

;-)
Nell.

*Wikipedia says you throw in a pat of butter to keep the frothing down, but we never did.

 

[Eolin]

Hmmm... molasses ....

I didn't know it was made from sugar cane. While that makes the maple tree lightly less awesome, it makes sugar awesome again. Because molasses is some awesome stuff.

 

[Rel]

I didn't know it was made from sugar cane.

They also make rum from it. Maybe you could work that into your next fast.

 

[Templeton580]

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