D&D 5E Anyone else think the Bard concept is just silly?

[Tales and Chronicles]

In my game I usualy use the bard like the Chanter from Pillars of Eternity. Its not the music itself that create the effect, but the chanter can awaken the fragment of legend or epic moment that left a mark still lingering in the world as ''collective memory echoes''. This way, the bard is more a summoner; when he casts ''Shatter'' yelling ''...and the Shattered Khan broke the Vale...'' he actualy summons the ''echo'' of this epic moment, the Shattered Khan appears above him and recreate the moment when he split a mountain in two at the dawn of the world, creating the effect of the ''Shatter'' spell.

 

[Garthanos]

In my game I usualy use the bard like the Chanter from Pillars of Eternity. Its not the music itself that create the effect, but the chanter can awaken the fragment of legend or epic moment that0........ left a mark still lingering in the world as ''collective memory echoes''. This way, the bard is more a summoner; when he casts ''Shatter'' yelling ''...and the Shattered Khan broke the Vale...'' he actualy summons the ''echo'' of this epic moment, the Shattered Khan appears above him and recreate the moment when he split a mountain in two at the dawn of the world, creating the effect of the ''Shatter'' spell.

Reminds me of the Akashic record ...

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

Reminds me of the Akashic record ...

I looked at it on wikipedia and its indeed quite similar.
If I take the invocations from the PoE's Chanter and translate them to D&D 5e, we could have something like this:
''...Gernisc Slew the Beast, but Soon Faced Its Kin''-» Mirror Image
''At the Sound of His Voice, the Killers Froze Stiff...'' -» Hold Person
''Blessed Was Wengridh, Quickest of His Tribe''-» Longstrider

and so on. It makes the bard something of a Truenamer/Binder of ancient memories.

 

[Garthanos]

I looked at it on wikipedia and its indeed quite similar.
If I take the invocations from the PoE's Chanter and translate them to D&D 5e, we could have something like this:
''...Gernisc Slew the Beast, but Soon Faced Its Kin''-» Mirror Image
''At the Sound of His Voice, the Killers Froze Stiff...'' -» Hold Person
''Blessed Was Wengridh, Quickest of His Tribe''-» Longstrider

and so on. It makes the bard something of a Truenamer/Binder of ancient memories.

I had a concept once that when the bards vicious mockery killed someone... it isnt an induced apoplectic stroke which is bad enough but rather you have convinced the universe that this entity is so beneath contempt and worthless that you literally erased them from the Akashic record and reality no longer supported their continued existence. Bards can be seriously bad ass.

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

I had a concept once that when the bards vicious mockery killed someone... it isnt an induced apoplectic stroke which is bad enough but rather you have convinced the universe that this entity is so beneath contempt and worthless that you literally erased them from the Akashic record and reality no longer supported their continued existence. Bards can be seriously bad ass.

Consider this idea stolen, its very cool.

 

[The Crimson Binome]

I had a concept once that when the bards vicious mockery killed someone... it isnt an induced apoplectic stroke which is bad enough but rather you have convinced the universe that this entity is so beneath contempt and worthless that you literally erased them from the Akashic record and reality no longer supported their continued existence.

That sounds significantly beyond the scope of power for a cantrip.

 

[Garthanos]

That sounds significantly beyond the scope of power for a cantrip.

And it is all just in flavor text... ie STORY.

Any power that lays down the killing blow could arguably get flavor perks. Imagine a cinematic cut scene in a way.

In most cases a simple dagger stroke is boring and of minor scope but as the end blow it could blind someone or a spear could induce a lobotomy an axe blow could behead them.(generally fates only for the non-heroic)

Similarly a "stoning" spell which normally slowed an enemy but which also delivered damage if it defeated an enemy could be a permanent stoning (or an overnight paralysis. )

 

[Garthanos]

duplicate post

 

[Redthistle]

I had a concept once that when the bards vicious mockery killed someone... it isnt an induced apoplectic stroke which is bad enough but rather you have convinced the universe that this entity is so beneath contempt and worthless that you literally erased them from the Akashic record and reality no longer supported their continued existence. Bards can be seriously bad ass.

A cantrip that gets you unfriended by the universe? That's harsh.

 

[Garthanos]

A cantrip that gets you unfriended by the universe? That's harsh.

Death is harsh , however you feel like presenting it. The Bards were considered downright sacred in many cultures (not just Celtic - the Jewish Cantor is the sacred singer) so harming them was bad karma in spades, and at minimum meant retaliatory curses.