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The question of art versus strategy is a big one, P-Kitty. There are people who want to write one particular work, and if that sells, cool, and if it doesn't, it doesn't. I think that's an entirely valid way to go about doing it, but I also think that if you want to be published, you have to figure out what level of compromise works for you.

So, for example, strategically, the best thing you can possibly do for your career as an SF/F novelist (aside from, you know, writing good stuff, which I'm just gonna take as a given) is to decide whether you want to write standalone books, series, or something in-between.

If you write standalone books, then every book you write is a book you can send out to publishers. By contrast, if you write a series, you have to try to sell it to publishers with the first book; generally speaking, if the publisher doesn't like the first book, that series doesn't sell. You're putting all your eggs in one basket and forcing yourself to market just one book -- and given how many authors say that the first book they sold was the fourth book they'd written, you're hurting your chance of selling.

On the other hand, if you write a series, and it DOES sell, having books two and three already written and book four already outlined is a great way to show a publisher that you can indeed deliver on your promise. Given that most fantasy publishers WANT series fiction, being able to say, "Yep, I've got the first three books ready to go," makes your first book (once it does sell) much more attractive to publishers.

I'm kind of splitting the middle with my own writing. I've written four books that I think are sellable (and three books before that that will never see the light of day again, unless blackmail is involved). The books take place in different universes, and they have different concepts and themes and tones:

1. Victorian Fantasy Murder Mystery -- serious, and it takes place in "the real world", but with a Harry-Potter-esque secret magical underbelly.

2. Modern Comedic Epic Fantasy -- an epic fantasy story that takes place in modern-day America, and has a lot of tongue-in-cheek humor.

3. Swashbuckling Fantasy Romantic Comedy -- a fantasy novel in a fantasy world. Much more humor and much less violence. This is probably the closest thing I've written to a "normal" fantasy story.

4. High Fantasy Heist Caper -- another fantasy novel in a fantasy world. The pitch here is "Ocean's Eleven in Fantasyland".

With the possible exception of (2), which kills off too many characters to really have a normal sequel, all of these could serve as book one of a series. They also stand alone -- they're most definitely NOT the first book of a trilogy -- but if a publisher says, "We like the heroes and we like the world. Give us a sequel!", I can pick right up with that. That's the advantage of my current plan.

The DISadvantage of my current plan is that the stuff I'm writing is different enough that it's entirely possible for a publisher to say, "We loved your Victorian mystery stuff, but this other stuff? It's just too different." That's less of an issue with the later books -- the more I write, the more I realize what works for me and what I have the most fun with -- but it does mean that the first book, while good on its own (I think), isn't a great representation of what everything else I write is going to be like.

And again, it's all a question of how much you can consciously strategize and still be writing what you want to write. If I had finished Book 1 and said, "That's it. I can never write anything but this again," I couldn't really strategize my way around that. Fortunately, the range of "stuff I can write and still really enjoy myself" is pretty large.

Also also, whenever I'm talking about strategizing, I'm talking about comparing what you write to what ELSE you write. I don't think that comparing what YOU write to what's currently on the market is very helpful. Even if you're good enough to consciously emulate (famous author you want to be like), by the time you write the book, edit the book, et the book to a publisher, get the publisher to accept the book, and get the book entirely through the publishing process and out to the market, several years will have gone by. Any particular fad you were trying to capitalize on will most likely be out the door by that point.

Which isn't to say that you can't get inspiration from different sources -- just that you shouldn't specifically aim for a particular publishing fad in your writing, because that target moves faster than most people can write.

Anyway, this has gotten extremely long now, and I should probably hush. :) Hope it helped.
 

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I'd get a day job if I could find one, but Advertising in Brazil is hell on wheels if you're married and don't have the time/disposition to suck up to the suits.

I recently landed an awesome gig (which you'll hear about later this year). If I managed to get six of these per year, I might actually be able to make a living out of illustration.

Getting some work from WotC would also help a lot... So far, no dice.
 

Klaus said:
Advertising in Brazil is hell on wheels if you're married and don't have the time/disposition to suck up to the suits.

I don't think it's just Brazil, my friend. It's like that here in the States, too.
 

I've seen a lot of HOW TO publications and such, but it's one of those things I suppose needs to be tackled head on to learn about.

For instance the other day I had to prepare the "press release" for the local papers...what does it do? I have no idea...I'm doing and learning as I go. I do know that should I want to go with a more mainstream/classic publisher that I may have a better shot at getting a real agent and having my work in more markets.

What I have now is confusing enough; considering I was voted most likely to be the guy that winds up in Mexico with a missing kidney...laying in a tub of ice...Asta la bye bye gringo carved into my chest or something like that.

I say do whatever works and stick with it if it pleases you.

I will say that it's a strange feeling knowing that I have access to the third largest form of mass communication in the world now...TV and the internet I believe trump hard copy publication now as far as audience attention, but I could be wrong...anywho it's a strange feeling and I'm spooked by it for sure.

Peace!
 

I have four works on contract right now, but nothing has begun paying yet. I'm planning on getting an agent shortly after I get my first few royalty checks! Thanks, Takyris, for the site!

Ostlander: A press release is just something that lets people know who you are and what you're all about. I haven't had to do this yet, because my books still have six months or so before their release date, and my publisher handles most of it. Still, from what I understand, you'll need to locate a good venue (several good venues is better) where they do book reviews or at least have some sort of "Arts" section. Your local newspaper may be a good venue for you if you live in a small town. Then you'll send them an informational packet that contains some or all of the following, depending on the type of publication you've contacted: the transcript of an interview with you, a photo of yourself, a copy of the book, a brief summary of the book, any good reviews your book has recieved, and a cover letter explaining why they should be interested in you and your work. You may also want to add links and locations where your book can be purchased, and I've heard that it's good to add little "freebies" in the package, like bookmarks, refridgerator magnets, and business cards. These can be printed out VERY inexpensively at www.vistaprint.com . The idea is to generate some buzz.

Hope that helps! :D
 

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Yes, an answer I can understand, lol.

I don't know how my current location of Kalamazoo, MI will deal with me, but there's a small town I'm from that might get wind.

I opened a ME SPACE (ie My SPace) to do some promo and so far it's doing well, but I have weird friends, but that's cool.

You must have a real publisher, lol. I can't complain too much for being a newbie, but I wonder if I'll sell more than three books!

Widgets for promo is great and if I can muster up the nerve to talk to people about what I've done in person I'll be sure to do it...thanks!

I really wanted to write RPG stuph years ago, but that seemed impossible, so I wrote a fantasy novel the way I would want a fantasy story told...I'm no Tolkien, but I just had to do it; for no other reason than to start something I suppose. There's been so many good campaigns and stories that derived from them over the years of playing that I felt I should at the least tell one of mine and see if I can get others to do the same.

I owe a lot to those that gamed with me and even more to those that put up with my crazy self while I wrote the damn thing...It's like having a second job that you are learning while on the job! It's the most difficult thing in the world to write a story that comes together and I have discovered that my second novel is proving more tedious than the first one...GURRRRRR!
I rant, so thank you for the input...I thank all of you and may the gods grant you all your shot at expressing yourselves. It's the information age and we all should have a voice now.
 

If you are uncomfortable approaching people, maybe you could try to get them to approach you. I made a T-Shirt at CafePress.com that had my book cover on the front and said, "Ask me about my books" on the back. Then, when people ask, I just happen to have a refridgerator magnet with the cover art, the book title, and a location where the book will be sold.

I know, I'm a shameless hussy.

I don't wear the shirt all the time, but I usually have some sort of promo item on me, just in case. When my books are officially released, I plan on carrying 2 or 3 of each in my trunk.

To keep from looking like a total pusher, I don't ever mention my books first. I wait until someone asks about the shirt or someone says, "So what do you do?" Then I try to act casual...but it's hard to be a casual pimp! :D

I just feel that you can't have too much marketing. I plan on doing as much as humanly possible (within a budget ;) ) to promote my stuff. I have a MySpace page, too...in fact, I just added you. So there.

:P
 

LOL! YES! ME SPACE RULES!

Dude, I never thought I would even consider shameless pimping, but this is what I want to do and wage-slavin' aint what tickles my scummy if you know what I mean? Brilliant, I mean brilliant...People who have something to say should say it and get the word out...piss on the stuffy elitist that censor us. I know that I read just about anything and that's the way it should be...let it fly and let the market kill or praise it.

I'll be sure to read your stuph when it comes out...for sure, lol!

T-shirts!? YES!

Gods bless you all I have always loved this site!

ENWORLD RULES and I mean that in a hulkamania, I'm turning green in enthusiam, Randy the Macho Man Savage sort of way.....Hoooooah!

Peace,

Ostlander
 

ha-gieden, those are some wonderful self-promotion ideas.

If you don't mind me asking, which publisher are you using?

Whenever the publication train rolls around, I'm hoping that the blog will come in handy. (Linked in my .sig.) Until then, it's a good place for me to bounce ideas off people (and talk about non-writing stuff -- work is pretty big right now, since I'm there six days a week).

Last thing I'll mention: cons. There are some very good ones out there -- the ones that are more aimed at writers than readers. On the U.S. west coast, Potlatch is a great one. I've also had really good experiences at WisCon. I believe that both of those cons have agent pitch sessions for which you can sign up: essentially, a good professional agent (a member of the association whose name I'm blanking on at the moment) sits for an hour or two and hears pitch after pitch from people.

The agent isn't really likely to sign you up, of course, but she might well be interested enough to ask you to send her the manuscript so that she can review it later. More importantly, she provides feedback right there about what leapt out at her as cool and interesting, and where you lost her. It's a great learning experience, and if nothing else, it gets you more comfortable with condensing your 800-page fantasy epic to an elevator pitch -- the thirty-second spiel that you could bring out if you found yourself in an elevator with a major agent or publisher and had exactly that much time to get them interested in your book.

Anyway, good luck! Can't wait to hear how things go!
 

I'm going through Windstorm Creative.

I've had a lot of people say that they've heard bad things about Windstorm (mostly that their distribution/production isn't large enough), and I've even seen that they aren't recommended at P and E, but my experience with them has been pretty good.

They've also recently improved.
**They have signed deals with more distributors, including Barnes and Nobles, to get their books on the shelves and not just on their internet sites.
**They've brought proffessional PR people on board.
**I had a lawyer go over my contract with Windstorm, and he found it to be solid.
**I'm going to be paid 15% gross off of every sale of any of my books. Some people get up to 20%.
**In its seventeen years, Windstorm has only backlisted one book.
**They have just improved their turn-around time. There's now just over a year between signing the contract and seeing your books on the shelves.


They are a growing company (something like 400% in the past year) and they are easy to work with. And personally, I love the fact that they produce all their books using the most ecologically sound practices possible, limiting toxins and using recycled materials.

They're really helping me to understand the publishing process, and I'm glad to be getting my start with them. I would recommend them to others. Unfortunately, they are currently not signing any new authors (this hasn't been posted on their website, however, and I suspect that if a book was good enough, they'd just send the author a contract that set production for next year).
 
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