D&D 5E Barding for War Dogs; 6000gp for Plate Barding???


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Oofta

Legend
Well, sure, but that doesn't look like heavy plate and there's no rider. :)
But like I said, I'm definitely no expert and haven't really looked into it.
If I wanted more realistic I'd limit armor to medium, hard to imagine being able to put plate on a dog. Historically they wore padded armor (which was quite common for people as well) and may have worn chain as well. This one? Scale mail perhaps?
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I keep threatening my wife that my next PC is going to have a dog that knows one trick. Fetch. I'm going to call them all "Trap Finder".
Animals are a key element in my world. It basically exists because I lost my first dog and wanted to continue to explore the way people bond with dogs and other pets.

My retrievers have an ability called Fetch. It means you never run out of ammunition.
 

Dave Goff

Explorer
If I wanted more realistic I'd limit armor to medium, hard to imagine being able to put plate on a dog. Historically they wore padded armor (which was quite common for people as well) and may have worn chain as well. This one? Scale mail perhaps?
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Yeah, that seems more reasonable to me.
Also, I wonder if the armor could be engineered in some way that it actually supports the back and makes having a rider less of a burden on the spine.
I now have head cannon about a Dwarven smith, a Gnomish artificer and a Halfling paladin starting a business of specially engineered and designed dog armors.
 


Reynard

Legend
Yeah, that seems more reasonable to me.
Also, I wonder if the armor could be engineered in some way that it actually supports the back and makes having a rider less of a burden on the spine.
I now have head cannon about a Dwarven smith, a Gnomish artificer and a Halfling paladin starting a business of specially engineered and designed dog armors.
Riding dogs can be a thing if you are talking about specific breeds developed for it, along with appropriate equipment. The real question is how would you fight on such a mount while it was attacking? Have you ever seen a dog attack a person or animal? Not conducive to rider comfort or ability to fight.
 


Oofta

Legend
Yeah, that seems more reasonable to me.
Also, I wonder if the armor could be engineered in some way that it actually supports the back and makes having a rider less of a burden on the spine.
I now have head cannon about a Dwarven smith, a Gnomish artificer and a Halfling paladin starting a business of specially engineered and designed dog armors.
Hmm, somehow it seems like the artificer would want something that looks like this
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Shiroiken

Legend
Now I know that today pets are beloved, but ... people were a bit utilitarian back then. Would it make sense to pay 6000 gp to armor up an animal that cost a small fraction of it?
Because having your mount die under you sucks. Not only are you gonna fall, but there'd be a chance you'd be pinned by the corpse. Survival probability drops considerably for dismounted cavalry, which is why infantry tries to dismount a rider, instead of killing them first.

You'll have to use an action to command each of them
"Chopper, sic balls!"
 

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
The rules state that "barding is four times that of similar armor for humanoids". Period. But what about for a dog? While I agree that it would take considerable time to craft such armor, the materials needed would be considerably less than that for a medium humanoid. Yes, it might be difficult to find someone willing to do such an armor in small or medium towns, but any large city or castle would probably have an armorer who makes such for the dogs of the Lord or City. Regardless, the 4x multiplier for all barding seems to be a simplistic rule, specifically for horses. Otherwise, Barding for an elephant would be the same as for a horse. Thoughts?
I’d just make it cost the same as for a humanoid, tbh.
 

The rules state that "barding is four times that of similar armor for humanoids". Period. But what about for a dog? While I agree that it would take considerable time to craft such armor, the materials needed would be considerably less than that for a medium humanoid. Yes, it might be difficult to find someone willing to do such an armor in small or medium towns, but any large city or castle would probably have an armorer who makes such for the dogs of the Lord or City. Regardless, the 4x multiplier for all barding seems to be a simplistic rule, specifically for horses. Otherwise, Barding for an elephant would be the same as for a horse. Thoughts?
The cost of the materials for Plate armour are only a very small fraction of the cost of the armour. The armourers who will be making it will probably be used to fitting specific patterns to a humanoid, and will have to create completely new pieces designed for that particular dog. Add to that the difficulties of attaching close-fitting armour to a creature with fur, and it is not surprising that it costs considerably more.
 

BookTenTiger

He / Him
The cost of the materials for Plate armour are only a very small fraction of the cost of the armour. The armourers who will be making it will probably be used to fitting specific patterns to a humanoid, and will have to create completely new pieces designed for that particular dog. Add to that the difficulties of attaching close-fitting armour to a creature with fur, and it is not surprising that it costs considerably more.
That's why you should hire an awakened dog blacksmith!
 

Now I know that today pets are beloved, but ... people were a bit utilitarian back then. Would it make sense to pay 6000 gp to armor up an animal that cost a small fraction of it?

(... why can't I find the price for a war dog in the phb?)

"I am in tears, while carrying you to your last resting place as much as I rejoiced when bringing you home with my own hands 15 years ago."


 



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