Battletech/Mechwarrior PbP: "Days of the Jackal" [closed]
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Shalimar
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I will point out the fact that, I, the player, if put in this exact situation on present day earth, would be able to get off on self defense even though I don't have any kind of political influence at all. The guy was acting threatningly, he threatened her companion, he was told to leave repeatedly, and then she gave him a warning count. Once I got down to the police station and explained it all out, and everyone around us are certainly witnesses to all of this, I would most likely have my gun impounded for awhile, but I'd get off scott free and eventually get it back. McKenzie, has a whole hell of a lot of political clout from Nondi, and she could most likely clear up any problems with the above by giving her name and saying that she had already been kidnapped once, and didn't want it repeated (threatening a member no matter how distant of a royal family is a big no no), and on the off Chance that doesn't work, direct influence use from getting a message to the steiner consulate would pretty much put a halt on the wheels of justice, if for some strange reason someone decided to press it.
Mike,
I don't think that "He does have a 2 charisma, so it's not being an a-hole, it's roleplaying." really works. Having a Charisma of 2 does not mandate annoying people just because.
Please remember that the PCs will have to work together to some degree. Nobody has to like everyone (anything but that), but somehow a functioning company (or at least some semblance of one.)
Folkert
I don't think that "He does have a 2 charisma, so it's not being an a-hole, it's roleplaying." really works. Having a Charisma of 2 does not mandate annoying people just because.
Please remember that the PCs will have to work together to some degree. Nobody has to like everyone (anything but that), but somehow a functioning company (or at least some semblance of one.)
Folkert
Shalimar
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Thats just it, at this point there is almost nothing, short of Ironsides jumping in the way of a hail of bullets aimed at McKenzie that will get her to work with him. Having to draw down and be mentally and physically ready to kill someone, in what you feel is self-defense, is a major thing, if she is ready to kill him to protect herself, then she would never want to be within 80 feet of him again, let alone trusting him.Douane said:
If you want to slip in something about him getting shot to protect her, go ahead, but I am quite serious McKenzie would go elsewhere if he was in the same merc unit, she'd rejoin the LCAf, or prefferably go join up with the Kell Hounds. Hopefully we can come up with something, but for the immediate future, he needs to leave her prescence immediately, and then we can think of making amends somehow.
Oh, man.
This is just an unmitigated disaster.
I'm not a super experienced roleplayer, and figured the gruff veteran with a heart of gold underneath it was an archetype I could grasp well enough to use as a foundation. That 2 charisma sentence was a lame joke, not an excuse. I just hope to be believed about that. I honestly feel crappy about the whole thing, and that post was basically an airing of my misgivings about a character I wasn't quite used to.
So, way I figure it, I screwed up somewhere. Likely went to far. My sense of humor tends to fall flat on its face, and it's fairly obvious now that such was definately the case here.
So, once again, apologies.
Second, I suppose I have two choices. The two of us hash it out, or the fight is interrupted by some new character I'll have to think up.
But, first, I'll try to explain things from my point of view so the two of us can try for the compromise.
Okay, first Sam butts in. I figured he'd been semi-close in line but just hadn't piped up to the conversation.
He makes a jab about the Lyran tendency towards heavy machinary, and in the original version, the social general syndrome. He also taunts the rookie. I definately overdid this one.
Shalimar posts regarding the rarity of the Wolfhound, and I rework that part of the post.
Mac fires back. I thought it was funny. I apparently thought both characters were less serious than Shalimar did. Another misjudgement on my part. I read it as friendly competition, rather than out and out hatred.
Ryan expresses indignation, and indicates his gun.
Huh?
So, I post the reply to Mac. This is mostly self deprecatory, making fun of Harrison himself, with one exception, the standard curmegeonly, I'm old, don't sass me. Finally, I figure that it can be settled in the sims, and such is offered up.
Then I reply to Ryan, offering a half-ass apology, and the advice that it's generally frowned upon to blow someone's brains out in public. He then passes the peace pipe, in the form of the candy he has to chew on.
Mac tosses more insults, then threatens to Ironsides, and says since she's important she can get away with shooting him in the streets like a peasant dog.
I....I don't know what the hell I was thinking with the next post. I didn't think the shooting thing was serious. IC, I doubted someone'd commit murder for impugning a BattleMech class, and that it could be done in broad daylight and gotten away with. I really shouldn't have posted that egging on though.
I go do things, and come back to the computer to find that it was serious with Mac's next post.
I toss back a rather snarky, likely horrifically insulting, attempt at a wake up call. I just, the situation confuses the hell out of me. I just can't fathom the situation as worth killing over. I was irritated at being threatened twice.
While I'm typing that, Yuriko tries to mediate, but it was posted while I typed my reply, so I missed it.
That's my read on the situation, and what was in my head.
If you disagree, tell me where, and we can try to compromise. If doing so proves to be impossible, I'll chalk the whole thing up to a succession of errors on my part and try again.
Just, shoot, I'm really sorry.
Either way, it's going to be toned way down.
My apologies, to all involved, but especially Douane, who let me in at the last second, and then nearly flushing the whole thing while he dealt with technical problems.
This is just an unmitigated disaster.
I'm not a super experienced roleplayer, and figured the gruff veteran with a heart of gold underneath it was an archetype I could grasp well enough to use as a foundation. That 2 charisma sentence was a lame joke, not an excuse. I just hope to be believed about that. I honestly feel crappy about the whole thing, and that post was basically an airing of my misgivings about a character I wasn't quite used to.
So, way I figure it, I screwed up somewhere. Likely went to far. My sense of humor tends to fall flat on its face, and it's fairly obvious now that such was definately the case here.
So, once again, apologies.
Second, I suppose I have two choices. The two of us hash it out, or the fight is interrupted by some new character I'll have to think up.
But, first, I'll try to explain things from my point of view so the two of us can try for the compromise.
Okay, first Sam butts in. I figured he'd been semi-close in line but just hadn't piped up to the conversation.
He makes a jab about the Lyran tendency towards heavy machinary, and in the original version, the social general syndrome. He also taunts the rookie. I definately overdid this one.
Shalimar posts regarding the rarity of the Wolfhound, and I rework that part of the post.
Mac fires back. I thought it was funny. I apparently thought both characters were less serious than Shalimar did. Another misjudgement on my part. I read it as friendly competition, rather than out and out hatred.
Ryan expresses indignation, and indicates his gun.
Huh?
So, I post the reply to Mac. This is mostly self deprecatory, making fun of Harrison himself, with one exception, the standard curmegeonly, I'm old, don't sass me. Finally, I figure that it can be settled in the sims, and such is offered up.
Then I reply to Ryan, offering a half-ass apology, and the advice that it's generally frowned upon to blow someone's brains out in public. He then passes the peace pipe, in the form of the candy he has to chew on.
Mac tosses more insults, then threatens to Ironsides, and says since she's important she can get away with shooting him in the streets like a peasant dog.
I....I don't know what the hell I was thinking with the next post. I didn't think the shooting thing was serious. IC, I doubted someone'd commit murder for impugning a BattleMech class, and that it could be done in broad daylight and gotten away with. I really shouldn't have posted that egging on though.
I go do things, and come back to the computer to find that it was serious with Mac's next post.
I toss back a rather snarky, likely horrifically insulting, attempt at a wake up call. I just, the situation confuses the hell out of me. I just can't fathom the situation as worth killing over. I was irritated at being threatened twice.
While I'm typing that, Yuriko tries to mediate, but it was posted while I typed my reply, so I missed it.
That's my read on the situation, and what was in my head.
If you disagree, tell me where, and we can try to compromise. If doing so proves to be impossible, I'll chalk the whole thing up to a succession of errors on my part and try again.
Just, shoot, I'm really sorry.
Either way, it's going to be toned way down.
My apologies, to all involved, but especially Douane, who let me in at the last second, and then nearly flushing the whole thing while he dealt with technical problems.
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Shalimar
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From McKenzie's point of view this is what happened, a big menacing obviously partially cybernetic guy just walks into her private conversation and starts making fun of the armed forces or possibly her family, can't exactly tell which. He then starts insulting someone that she is talking to, and when the guy he insults puts his hand on his gun to say "go away" he tells the guy he'll shove the gun in his mouth. Now from McKenzie's point of view, the guy is quite obviously a bully, and acting very agressive, so she can't be sure if he'll do something. She tells him again to go away and leave them alone. He doesn't and starts being even more belligerent, so she draws her weapon to make it 100% clear that she wants the guy away from her. She even gives a count down showing that she doesn't want to hurt him, just wants to be left alone, but that she will defend herself.
I guess I see the situation differently being a girl, but when a big guy who is a stranger walks up to you and starts insulting things you care about and threatening people and refuses to leave when asked, well, at that point drawing a weapon in self-defense to get him to back away is not un-called for.
I guess I see the situation differently being a girl, but when a big guy who is a stranger walks up to you and starts insulting things you care about and threatening people and refuses to leave when asked, well, at that point drawing a weapon in self-defense to get him to back away is not un-called for.
