Battletech/Mechwarrior PbP: "Days of the Jackal" [closed]

[Shalimar]

Please remember that McKenzie is in Montenegro where the name of the Steiners has no pull at all.

While she bring some influence to bear, given proper time, no one is going to stand in awe just because of her name.

Not the point I was trying to make, she didn't do anything wrong, and while a cop could hassal a person for doing what she did, it was all in self-defense, so any charges that could be brought against would almost definitely be very minor, along the lines of misdemeanors.I don't think that a cop would hassal a woman who pulled a weapon in self-defense with that many witnesses around is my point.

 

[Mike D F]

I kind of get where you're coming from.

But everyone doing the whole let's go for the gun thing...I think of weapons as a last resort to a threat, not for a couple petty insults. But I guess I can see it. And the threat IS made was in response to Ryan getting ready to draw his gun. I've always seen brandishing a weapon as more serious than an display of bravado.

So, how do you wish me to fix it?

 

[Shalimar]

I honestly don't know that it is fixable, for a woman to be afraid enough, even if she doesn't show it, to actually draw a weapon on someone and be willing to kill them to protect herself is a big deal, we don't tend to get over things quickly, and no matter what you say, I doubt it'll be alright.

For now just leave her alone, is my best suggestion, and hope that when we do end up on contract with each other she finds out after its too late for her to get of the dropship, and transferring to another dropship on the jumpship will be too expensive.

 

[Douane]

Thanks, Mike!


Having re-read the thing twice now, I have to say that the fault lies clearly with me for not being there to defuse the situation. Sorry for my failure!


I also want to apologize to everyone for snapping out here in the thread and the tone of my posts. In light of some recent private events I've been way over-agitated and should have made sure to treat this matter with the proper calm. Sorry!


Folkert

 

[Douane]

[...] while a cop could hassal a person for doing what she did, it was all in self-defense, so any charges that could be brought against would almost definitely be very minor, along the lines of misdemeanors.I don't think that a cop would hassal a woman who pulled a weapon in self-defense with that many witnesses around is my point.

But does Mckenzie really have so many witnesses?


I think Marik police, operating on Marik soil, "interviewing" Marik citizens might come to a different conclusion:

"Loyal Marik citizen, did you see that Steiner scum shot an unarmed man without a warning here in Montenegro?"



In addition I think there are some degrees to "Self-defence". Drawing a gun is one thing, actually shooting someone a very different.

 

[Douane]

Mike,

you mentioned an "alcohol problem" in your background. Perhaps it is not yet totally overcome, and Sam is still struggling with it?


Folkert

 

[Shalimar]

She didn't shoot him, but even if she had, I still believe she wouldn't have seen a trial, she told him repeatedly to leave her alone, she warned him that she would shoot him if he didn't leave, and then she gave a count, she in no way wanted to shoot him, it was clear self-defense. She did have a few witnesses in the Dark knight and the other characters, but I quite honestly believe it would have been justifiable homicide, she shouldn't to bring any influence to bare was my thought. I don't particularly like stereotypes, but some of them die hard, a pair of women and a young boy like Jake being threatened by big bad cybrog periphery guy would go a pretty good way.

 

[Douane]

Shalimar,

I think we have to agree on disagreeing on what constitutes "justifiable self-defense".

Frankly said, I myself have been raised and also trained later on to see things rather differently on what justifies actually shooting someone.


Folkert

 

[shurai]

Arg, I see what you mean about the site being a bit finicky there Douane. I'm hanging on editing my character's attempt to help.

 

[Shalimar]

Different countries different laws I guess, if she had shot him in the US, she probably would have gotten off, maybe not in other countries, but certainly in the US, it would have been better if she had fired a warning shot at his feet first, but if push came to shove and she honestly thought it was her life in danger, she wouldn't be convicted.