Battlezoo Shares The OGL v1.1

Battlezoo, the YouTube channel which shared the initial leak of the new Open Game License, has shared the PDF of the OGL v1.1 draft which is currently circulating. This draft is, presumably, the same document obtained by Gizmodo last week. It's not currently known if this is the final version of the license.

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[UngainlyTitan]

I am really not sure that’s true, and in fact if Paizo tries to ditch the OGL and republish, I’m reasonably sure WotC WOULD sue, and tie them in court long enough to kill them, because that would be the most precedent-setting case of any case WotC would care to wager.

Paizo’s best bet, in my non-lawyer opinion, would be to attempt to join or initiate a class-action with other publishers over the revocation of OGL 1.0a, because the lawsuit over “what is a game mechanic vs. what is art” is a MUCH larger endeavor than “can this license which everybody used to agree was irrevocable be revoked?”

I do not believe that this is a viable course from what I read on the lawyer threads but they could keep gong and defend their right to do so per the OGL 1.0(a) contract. It would be up to WoTC to prove that they can withdraw that contract.

 

[ilgatto]

I'm sure that most D&D fans haven't even heard about it yet.

Meanwhile, over at Dragonsfoot:

 

[Alzrius]

By the way, this would also work for their response...

Whereas this one would work for how the community has received the news:

 

[Nikosandros]

Meanwhile, over at Dragonsfoot:

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DF is a forum that has a very strong focus on playing old editions of D&D. Even retroclones don't have so much coverage. I'm not surprised that there's very little discussion of the OGL.

 

[UngainlyTitan]

According to rumour (screenshots of tweets I saw this morning somewhere, I can't find them right now), WoTC are currently in full Fuhrer Bunker mode. No one wants to speak up for fear of getting fired. It sounds as if they're paralysed. Sane people at WoTC know they ought to be issuing a conciliatory press release, but the boss is in Evil Emperor mode and they don't dare tell her. That's the rumour anyway.

We need the Downfall parody.

 

[Cadence]

Meanwhile, over at Dragonsfoot:

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DF is a forum that has a very strong focus on playing old editions of D&D. Even retroclones don't have so much coverage. I'm not surprised that there's very little discussion of the OGL.

I mean, I'd be kind of surprised if there was lots of discussion in the 2nd Edition sub-forum...

That being said, there looks like there's only one thread on there anywhere? (General Messages / General Discussion).

Apparently they have mods too...

 

[UngainlyTitan]

The reason I suspect Williams over Cocks is that Cocks headed WoTC for a while and never made any noises in this direction at the time. It seems to have only started when Williams came in. Then there was the leaked investor call. I don't think it's sexist to suspect that she is the prime mover on this.

That is the reason that I think that this is a board level thing. Which would explain the Furher Bunker stuff. Cocks was not planning to do this but get the top job and Hasbro is having a bad year by overgrazing the Magic meadow. Some wants monetization and to do that they need to kill the OGL, Cocks is Keitel, Williams is Jodl, Hitler, Goebbels and Boorman are the Hasbro board

 

[ilgatto]

DF is a forum that has a very strong focus on playing old editions of D&D.

I rest my case, as they say.

 

[Nikosandros]

I rest my case, as they say.

I don't follow. People have the PDFs and/or printed copied of AD&D. They don't need the OGL.

 

[dbolack]

If you can't see how changing beer to chardonnay is sexist, you have a broken sexism detector.

Or possibly you have no idea what chardonnay is I guess, but then you were presumably perplexed by the meme.

I will admit, and perhaps it's my age, I thought of that as classist moreso than sexist. Glad someone made this mistake for me to learn from.