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Best 9th level spell for a sorcerer

Warren Okuma

First Post
Arkhandus said:
He doesn't have the right spells known for Time Stop to be truly effective as his one and only 9th-level sorcerer spell (though maybe later it'd be decent for his 3rd spell of that level).
Eh, he can pick up delayed blast fireball quite easily.
 

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CTSparky

Explorer
but is it worth it to take Time Stop and switch out a spell fo Delayed blast fireball?

I do have the feat Energy Substitution to COLD, but I'd think the spell might be a bit more useful.
 

Isida Kep'Tukari

Adventurer
Supporter
For pure damage-dealing mayhem (and hey, that's what a sorcerer is good at, ya?), you can't beat the sphere of ultimate distruction from the Spell Compendium. More hit point damage to a single creature than you can shake a stick at, and those with DR can just bite your spell-slinging grits! You still have to make SR, and they get a Fort save, but it's like a potential disintigration that lasts for 1 round/level.

Summon golem is nice too, for when you need a little more precision in your battles (from PHB II).
 

Wolfwood2

Explorer
Isida Kep'Tukari said:
For pure damage-dealing mayhem (and hey, that's what a sorcerer is good at, ya?), you can't beat the sphere of ultimate distruction from the Spell Compendium. More hit point damage to a single creature than you can shake a stick at, and those with DR can just bite your spell-slinging grits! You still have to make SR, and they get a Fort save, but it's like a potential disintigration that lasts for 1 round/level.

I agree, that thing rocks.
 


Wolfwood2

Explorer
pawsplay said:
For a sorcerer, it pretty much has to be shapechange, shades, gate, or SM IX.

I would go with Shapeshift or Gate only if I had a spell or spells that can be usefully boosted with a metamagic feat to fill that 9th level slot.

Sometimes you need to expend all your boom in a hurry, and Shapeshift/Gate aren't spells you are going to cast more than once a battle.
 

pawsplay

Hero
Wolfwood2 said:
I would go with Shapeshift or Gate only if I had a spell or spells that can be usefully boosted with a metamagic feat to fill that 9th level slot.

Sometimes you need to expend all your boom in a hurry, and Shapeshift/Gate aren't spells you are going to cast more than once a battle.

But casting them once is enough. With a sorcerer, I wouldn't even worry about metamagic too much. Using a 9th level slot for an 8th level spell is still usually a good move.
 

Quartz

Hero
I'm seeing a lack of high-level damage spells. Shapechange seems to be the best choice here - shapechanging into a dragon is a pretty good start for damage dealing - and it is a spell of considerable utility. Wish should be the second spell.
 

DaveMage

Slumbering in Tsar
A favorite tactic of one of our party members was to shapechange into an iron golem and then cast lost of fireballs with himself as the center - instant healing for him and damage to enemies.
 

Klaus

First Post
As a sorcerer, you want to go with a spell that can be cast several times during the day.

I'd go with Dragonform (PHBII). Becoming a Huge Red Dragon with all the associated abilites is nothing sneeze (fire) at. :D

After that, Summon Monster IX.
 

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