Best race for each class?

[Norfleet]

Re: Re: Best race for each class?

Bard: 1/2 Elf (easy winner here)

*spittake*

You're joking, right? This could only be a joke, to combine the arguably most maligned and ineffective class, with the UNarguably most useless race.

 

[Viktyr Gehrig]

Everyone who uses Half-Orc as the best race for Barbarian, as the Half-Orc is written in the core rules...

You're speaking filthy human lies. Sheer madness.

Since Barbarians aren't heavily-armored, they need to rely more on mobility, which requires skills-- Climb, Jump, Tumble (cross-class)... Half-Orcs not only lose the Humans' extra skill point, but the loss of two points of Intelligence puts them two skill points behind. Barbarians also need Survival, Listen, and Spot...

Even Intimidate, the Barbarian forte, is hurt by the Charisma penalty.

 

[Seule]

Re: Re: Re: Best race for each class?

You're joking, right? This could only be a joke, to combine the arguably most maligned and ineffective class, with the UNarguably most useless race.

Have you looked at 3.5? Half-elves got bonuses to stuff that basically applies to bards and the occasional rogue only. Bards have abilities only dreamed of by 3.0 bards. Half-elves are the only race that actually gives bonuses to bards, even if they are minor bonuses. They are now a perfect fit.
Besides, people malign both for being combat ineffective. Bards aren't about combat effectiveness, they are about social interaction and buffing. No race helps the buffing part, but the interaction is what half-elves are good at.

--Seule

 

[Tarrasque Wrangler]

Barbarian: Half-Orc
Bard: Halfling
Cleric: Halfling
Druid: Halfling
Fighter: Half-Orc
Monk: Half-Orc
Paladin: Half-Orc
Ranger: Half-Orc
Rogue: Halfling
Sorcerer: Halfling
Wizard: Halfling

Done. Next?

 

[mooby]

i am curious to see the reasons behind each decision, for those that didn't leave one.


gno gnome barbarians?

 

[Gez]

I'll also mention some non-core races and non-core classes, but at least one core race for each class. I've assigned them not only out of game mechanics and powergaming, but also out of how I see the mindset of each race. This may vary from common stereotypes...

Adept (NPC) Human, halfling, orc, goblin
Aristocrat (NPC) Human, elf
Barbarian Half-orc, orc, human, halfling
Bard Human, half-elf, elf, halfling, gnome
Cleric Human, dwarf, gnome
Commoner (NPC) Human, halfling
Druid Gnome, halfling, elf, human
Expert Human, dwarf, halfling, goblin
Fighter Human, dwarf, hobgoblin, halfling, elf
Monk Human, gnome
Paladin Human, dwarf
Psion (Psi) Human, gnome
Psychic Warrior (Psi) Human, half-orc, orc
Ranger Elf, human, half-elf, gnome
Rogue Human, elf, halfling, half-elf, gnome, dwarf, goblin, kobold
Samurai (OA) Human, dwarf
Shaman (OA) Human, gnome, elf, half-elf
Shugenja (OA) Human, gnome, elf, half-elf
Sohei (OA) Human, dwarf
Sorcerer Human, halfling, kobold, hobgoblin
Warrior (NPC) Human, dwarf, hobgoblin, halfling, elf, orc, half-orc, half-elf
Wizard Human, gnome, halfling
Wu-Jen (OA) Human, gnome, elf

 

[Psiblade]

My list is as follows in order of preference:

Barbarian: Half-Orc , Dwarf
Bard: Half elf, Human
Cleric: Human,
Druid: Human
Fighter: Dwarf, Wood elf, Half-Orc
Monk: Human
Paladin: Human
Psion: Human, Gnome
Psychic Warrior: Human, Dwarf, Half-orc
Ranger: Wood elf
Rogue: Halfling, Human
Sorcerer: Gnome, Human
Wizard: Gnome, Dwarf, Human

I have been impressed by the improvements to the weaker classes from 3.0 to 3.5 (esp. bards & rangers).

-Psiblade

 

[ConcreteBuddha]

All classes except sorcerer: Dwarf.
Sorcerer: Gold Dwarf.


Why? Can't stand torches and lanterns. Darkvision rocks.

 

[candidus_cogitens]

Wizard: Gnome
Barbarian: Gnome
Druid: Gnome
Fighter: Gnome
Rogue: Gnome
Cleric: Orc
Ranger: Gnome
Sorcerer: Gnome
Bard: Gnome

 

[TroyXavier]

Humans are good choices for any class
other than that

Barbarian Half Orc, Gnome, or Dwarf. Your choice of Con or Strength. Gnomes +1 hit cancels out the strength penalty and the bonus to AC helps the limit on armor

Bard Gnome or Half Elf. Spells or Skills? It's your choice.

Cleric: *shrug* Elves. They aren't significantly hurt by con though dex is hindered by the heavy armor. Still the prof. help and you can make a good cleric/archer. Gnomes and Halflings are hurt by their size.

Druid: Gnome or Elf. They are nature lovers. Their skills apply well. Low Light Vision works well.

Fighter: Dwarf or Half Orc. Any explanation needed?

Monk: Half Orc or Dwarf. Neither penalty hurts(Int minorly in the orc's case, but the strength helps immensely) and the bonuses work well.

Paladin: Half Elf. Sound crazy? Well Dwarf and Half Orc hurt by Charisma, Gnome and Halfling by size. Elves could get by, but the LG alignment is hard for Elves.

Ranger: Elf. Archery...any question? Dwarves make a good two weapon fighter as do Gnomes.

Rogue: Halfling. The class was tailored to them.

Sorceror and Wizard. Gnomes, no question. Bonus to Illusion and Con make Gnomes the easy choice.