best way for melee to fight devils/demons

[Darklone]

Hmm, Gaiden, casting antimagic field on a flee and then teleporting him somewhere... Kewl. Your antimagic field does not disturb that teleport a little bit ?

 

[hong]

You're in trouble. Here's how I envison the combat:

Round 1: Summon Gelugon

Archer shoots 5 arrows at pit fiend, wizard casts disintegrate, cleric casts holy smite. Result: dead pit fiend. With only 123 hp, it simply isn't durable enough to withstand multiple rounds of punishment from a determined high-level party.

Noone said that the rest of the party couldn't join in.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Noone said that the rest of the party couldn't join in.

Ah. The hong-land definition of "challenging a pit fiend to one-on-one combat".

-Hyp.

 

[hong]

Ah. The hong-land definition of "challenging a pit fiend to one-on-one combat".

So he lied.

 

[Hypersmurf]

So he lied.

He's still left with the problem that "we're a party of melee fighters (gladiator, weapon master, monk, arcane archer)", which nixes the Destruction and Holy Smite idea somewhat.

But yes, the archer can shoot arrows at the Pit Fiend, and the gladiator who goes around challenging people to one-on-one fights can live out his life knowing that the guy with the bow saved him from having to go through with a challenge.

-Hyp.

 

[hong]

But yes, the archer can shoot arrows at the Pit Fiend, and the gladiator who goes around challenging people to one-on-one fights can live out his life knowing that the guy with the bow saved him from having to go through with a challenge.

Is D&D meant to be a group-based game, or is it not?

Because if one of my party members got into a situation way over his head, I'd think it was my responsibility to help get him out again. Unless said party member had been a dill, in which case things are different.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Is D&D meant to be a group-based game, or is it not?

D&D is what you make of it.

In this case, we have a character who prides himself on his individual prowess.

"(that's my character's schtick...I get into one on one fights wherever I go. I'm a gladiator, what else am I supposed to do?)"

The archer might save his life... but the gladiator might never forgive him for it.

-Hyp.

 

[hong]

"(that's my character's schtick...I get into one on one fights wherever I go. I'm a gladiator, what else am I supposed to do?)"

Frickin' psycho buttkickers. They're as bad as drama queens and munchkins sometimes.

The archer might save his life... but the gladiator might never forgive him for it.

I think this is known as Darwinism in action.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Frickin' psycho buttkickers. They're as bad as drama queens and munchkins sometimes.

Don't forget those elves who sneer down their noses at 'lesser races', somehow under the impression that pointy ears protect them from people of equivalent CR...

I think this is known as Darwinism in action.

-Hyp.

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

And who was complaining that the current pit fiend wasn't tough enough?

Against a typical party of 16th-level characters, the pit fiend is weak.

Against a single melee fighter ... it's strong.

Hyp, don't you have a javelin or something?