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Black Widow

Dire Bare

Legend
Nah. Bond never exhibits superhuman durability like Black Widow (he would survive falls like that through luck, landing on a hay-filled trailer or something, rather than bounce off a few metal railings, and then stand up again), and nothing even comes close to that final aerial showdown.
Heh, yeah. I was referring to the over-the-top action in the final act. Not so much Natasha's ability to come down HARD and walk away still breathing. That was certainly noticeable, but (IMO) stretching credulity by degree, not in kind for an action film. They should have toned that down, or been more obvious with the maybe Natasha is super soldier lite . . .
 

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Stalker0

Legend
And a complete lack of thought. If he lowered birthrates for a while, he could have brought the universe to half population without killing anyone. Or he could have used the gauntlet to create more resources, so the universe never runs out. His plan doesn't play as something that works at all.
Or the best version of all,

adjust sentient intellect thst once they hit a certain population point their mentality changes towards a model of stability, and physically their birthrate naturally drops…but these changes are removed in their is a major population drop.

aka make sentient creatures better self regulate themselves
 

CapnZapp

Legend
Or the best version of all,

adjust sentient intellect thst once they hit a certain population point their mentality changes towards a model of stability, and physically their birthrate naturally drops…but these changes are removed in their is a major population drop.

aka make sentient creatures better self regulate themselves
I don't think the Infinity Stones would have interpreted and executed that order correctly.

Safer to keep things simple.
 


Tonguez

A suffusion of yellow
Or the best version of all,

adjust sentient intellect thst once they hit a certain population point their mentality changes towards a model of stability, and physically their birthrate naturally drops…but these changes are removed in their is a major population drop.

aka make sentient creatures better self regulate themselves

I dont think Thanos ever took time to consider population psychology when he decided to kill half the universe as a sustainable conservation measure.
 

Stalker0

Legend
I don't think the Infinity Stones would have interpreted and executed that order correctly.

Safer to keep things simple.
It’s a magic genie wishing stone, that includes the mind stone which is basically a complex AI computer.

I mean if you are literally committing your whole life towards the goal of balancing all life in the universe…thst is one of the few ways to do it. Doubling resources or killing half of life only buys you a paltry sum of years. Continuous doubling means you will run out of space in the universe (if you think that’s crazy you underestimate the sheer power of exponential growth), and if you just kept growing the universe to compensate than interstellar travel will break down.

The absolute best and most efficient method is to rewire life to better balance itself.
 

billd91

Hobbit on Quest (he/him)
It’s a magic genie wishing stone, that includes the mind stone which is basically a complex AI computer.

I mean if you are literally committing your whole life towards the goal of balancing all life in the universe…thst is one of the few ways to do it. Doubling resources or killing half of life only buys you a paltry sum of years. Continuous doubling means you will run out of space in the universe (if you think that’s crazy you underestimate the sheer power of exponential growth), and if you just kept growing the universe to compensate than interstellar travel will break down.

The absolute best and most efficient method is to rewire life to better balance itself.
A better alternative might be to base Thanos's motivation on his love of Death as they did in the comics. That's pretty dark, though.
 


Janx

Hero
I dont think Thanos ever took time to consider population psychology when he decided to kill half the universe as a sustainable conservation measure.
no, I don't think he did.

I don't think he even understood the problem. There's only so much matter in the universe, and only so much of that is the right kind to be food or people. There's a built in limit. The reason people were suffering was cuz people like him had all the wealth as evidenced by their massive armies and war machines being used to inflict his will on people. Maybe if he'd have spent that time helping folks...
 

pukunui

Legend
Going back to Black Widow, something that's been bothering me a little bit is the portrayal of Nat and Yelena's theft of that family's car as no big deal. The movie makes a point of showing us that the shop owner has a) a fancy car and b) a wife and kids. Then Nat says she knows where the keys are, and the next thing we know, they're driving off in the poor guy's sports car.

Perhaps Nat made arrangements for the car to be returned to him when she was finished with it, but that wasn't shown on-screen. It's not so much that I feel it's out of character for her or anything. It's more that the movie itself presents this theft as just a means of moving the plot forward.

This isn't a huge thing for me. Just something I've been mulling over periodically ever since seeing the movie.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
no, I don't think he did.

I don't think he even understood the problem. There's only so much matter in the universe, and only so much of that is the right kind to be food or people. There's a built in limit. The reason people were suffering was cuz people like him had all the wealth as evidenced by their massive armies and war machines being used to inflict his will on people. Maybe if he'd have spent that time helping folks...
It's an interesting question. Does Thanos pay his armies? Do they maybe get a 'get out of jail free' card when he clicks his fingers?
 

MarkB

Legend
Going back to Black Widow, something that's been bothering me a little bit is the portrayal of Nat and Yelena's theft of that family's car as no big deal. The movie makes a point of showing us that the shop owner has a) a fancy car and b) a wife and kids.
And, presumably, c) insurance. I think she can live with him having to deal with higher premiums for awhile.
 




Ryujin

Hero
Going back to Black Widow, something that's been bothering me a little bit is the portrayal of Nat and Yelena's theft of that family's car as no big deal. The movie makes a point of showing us that the shop owner has a) a fancy car and b) a wife and kids. Then Nat says she knows where the keys are, and the next thing we know, they're driving off in the poor guy's sports car.

Perhaps Nat made arrangements for the car to be returned to him when she was finished with it, but that wasn't shown on-screen. It's not so much that I feel it's out of character for her or anything. It's more that the movie itself presents this theft as just a means of moving the plot forward.

This isn't a huge thing for me. Just something I've been mulling over periodically ever since seeing the movie.
Right up there with every D&D adventuring party that ever stole their first horses, without considering the ramifications to the victims.
 

pukunui

Legend
Yeah, see, the scene where they steal that businessman's SUV doesn't bother me.

I think the reason their theft of the sports car bothers me is because the movie made a point to show that the owner is a family man. If they hadn't shown the scenes where the man embraces his wife and kids as he shuts up shop for the day, I don't think I would've given it any more thought than I did their earlier theft of the businessman's SUV.

So, I guess, as a family man myself, I'm just feeling particularly sensitive to that kind of thing. I feel bad for him that Nat and Yelena stole his car.
 


Janx

Hero
It's an interesting question. Does Thanos pay his armies? Do they maybe get a 'get out of jail free' card when he clicks his fingers?
another good question. Can you imagine fighting for Thanos thinking "yeah, this is gonna rock!" and then snap and oh crap, half the people on my team disappeared, too. I suppose there's art imitating life there as well.
 

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