D&D (2024) bring back the pig faced orcs for 6th edition, change up hobgoblins & is there a history of the design change

[Stormonu]

okay, that is wild but I would feel bad reprogramming a sapient robot against its will as that would be wrong.

To be honest, John Connor did that to the T800 in T2.

 

[Charlaquin]

that would be none sapient as it is equivalent to instincts in animal, to be sapient is to be able to resist your natural programming.

I’m not convinced that computer programming is a good analogy for biological brain functions.

 

[Mind of tempest]

I’m not convinced that computer programming is a good analogy for biological brain functions.

we have yet to generate one that does not sound even more insane yet so it stands as one right now.

To be honest, John Connor did that to the T800 in T2.

look I follow our Lord and savour on this topic, given that freedom is the right of all sapient beings I would thus see john Connor's action as immoral but understandable.

 

[Faolyn]

okay, that is wild but I would feel bad reprogramming a sapient robot against its will as that would be wrong.

It was so long ago, I can't remember if they were intelligent or not. I think they were just mindless mooks.

 

[Mind of tempest]

It was so long ago, I can't remember if they were intelligent or not. I think they were just mindless mooks.

if it is mindless how can it have a soul?

 

[Faolyn]

that would be none sapient as it is equivalent to instincts in animal, to be sapient is to be able to resist your natural programming.

Maybe, maybe not. We don't really know how much we humans are actually going against our instinctual programming and the answer might very well be "we're not going against our programming at all, it's just that our programming is very complex."

As an example, I was the weird kid. "Not like other girls," in a manner of speaking. Then, in my late 30s, I got diagnosed with ASD--specifically, Asperger's. And in doing research, I discovered that the weird things I did were all very normal for Aspie girls.

 

[Faolyn]

if it is mindless how can it have a soul?

Beats me. I only know what Dad told me, not that editor's reasoning behind it. And I'm not sure I ever saw the final episode.

 

[Mind of tempest]

Maybe, maybe not. We don't really know how much we humans are actually going against our instinctual programming and the answer might very well be "we're not going against our programming at all, it's just that our programming is very complex."

As an example, I was the weird kid. "Not like other girls," in a manner of speaking. Then, in my late 30s, I got diagnosed with ASD--specifically, Asperger's. And in doing research, I discovered that the weird things I did were all very normal for Aspie girls.

can you resist the urge to eat when your body wants to but you do not?

 

[reelo]

Real orcs:

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Fixed.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

The list of creatures that used to be "monsters" and are now playable PC races includes: bugbear, centaur, firbolg, gith, goblin, hobgoblin, kobold, lizardfolk, minotaur, orc, yuan-ti. Probably add in dhampir which seems to effectively be a depowered vampire spawn.

Seems like an indication of direction to me.

A direction isn’t a cycle. Many of those have been playable in some form for multiple editions before 5e, they’re stuff people just generally want to be able to play. None of them became the monster horde race to replace another that had become a PC race. There is no cycle.