Charge - To nearest square? Huh?

[Herschel]

I'd say no--The closest square that the monkey can attack from would be the square that contains the wall corner--which is obviously occupied.

You are correct.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Yes, I count it as four, using the rules above that state you count "around" the corner.

There are no corners between the starting point and the monkey.

You're agreeing that the starting point for counting distance is square b, and then you're using square c as your starting point for counting distance.

-Hyp.

 

[Dracorat]

There are no corners between the starting point and the monkey.

You're agreeing that the starting point for counting distance is square b, and then you're using square c as your starting point for counting distance.

-Hyp.

No Im agreeing that d is the starting point and including c in the count of distance as there is a corner there, just opposite c, SE

 

[Hypersmurf]

No Im agreeing that d is the starting point...

To count the distance from square d to another square, we start at an adjacent square (even if it's diagonally adjacent and around a corner). Not at square d.

I already asked if you disputed that, and you said you didn't!

-Hyp.

 

[Dracorat]

To count the distance from square d to another square, we start at an adjacent square (even if it's diagonally adjacent and around a corner). Not at square d.

I already asked if you disputed that, and you said you didn't!

-Hyp.

Our starting point is either the enemy or the player depending on what direction you want to count it. If we were standing in "d" then we could start counting at "b" and count "b" "c" "d"

I didn't dispute that "d" would be the first square of our count. I thought that's what you were asking. If you say you're going to start counting at "b" then yes, I dispute that.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Our starting point is either the enemy or the player depending on what direction you want to count it.

We're not trying to reach the enemy. We're trying to reach the nearest square from which we can attack the enemy.

So we're counting the distance between the nearest square from which the monkey can attack the banana (which is d), and the monkey.

To determine the distance between square d and another square, we start at a square adjacent to d. The square adjacent to d is b.

-Hyp.

 

[Dracorat]

No, you have to end your movement in a square adjacent, not start counting from there. That's why you end at "1" square away and not "0" squares away.

 

[Dracorat]

Hyp - you're trying to strawman my argument. That's a poor way to "win" any argument. If you choose to use a different interpretation, go for it, but I seriously doubt you don't understand my position.

I have been pretty clear how it would be counted and why I count it as such.

 

[Hypersmurf]

No, you have to end your movement in a square adjacent, not start counting from there. That's why you end at "1" square away and not "0" squares away.

The monkey needs to move directly to the nearest square from which he can attack the banana. That's square d. We're agreed on that, right?

For the moment, we're assuming that "directly toward" means that each square of movement must bring him one square closer to the destination. We're agreed on that, right?

Which means that we need to know the distance between the monkey and square d at any point in the movement. We're agreed on that, right?

And the rule for counting distance is "When counting the distance from one square to another, start counting from any adjacent square (even one that is diagonally adjacent but around a corner) and then count around solid obstacles that fill their squares." We're agreed on that, right?

-Hyp.

 

[Dracorat]

The monkey needs to move directly to the nearest square from which he can attack the banana. That's square d. We're agreed on that, right?

For the moment, we're assuming that "directly toward" means that each square of movement must bring him one square closer to the destination. We're agreed on that, right?

Which means that we need to know the distance between the monkey and square d at any point in the movement. We're agreed on that, right?

And the rule for counting distance is "When counting the distance from one square to another, start counting from any adjacent square (even one that is diagonally adjacent but around a corner) and then count around solid obstacles that fill their squares." We're agreed on that, right?

-Hyp.

The distance however, is between the combatants, not between squares beside the combatants.

If I only had to mave in to position to attack square "d" - instead of attacking "from" square "d" then I'd agree.