clarification on sneak attack

[drnuncheon]

No, because the fighters' victim in the example doesn't lose his dex bonus. A rogue gets to Sneak Attack if they flank the target OR if the target loses his dex bonus (for whatever reason). Flanking in itself doesn't negate the subject's dex bonus.

{edit} Man, am I slow today...

Yeah, but it's worth saying again - a lot of people get confused on this rules point. (Including me - it's one of those things I have to constantly remind myself of.)

Flanking characters do get a +2 to hit, though.

J

 

[Terramotus]

Originally posted by shadowcaster007
Sniping: If you've already successfully hidden at least 10 feet from your target, you can make one ranged attack, then immediately hide again as a move action . You suffer a -20 circumstance penalty on your Hide check to conceal yourself after the shot-

Where is this? Is it in Song and Silence? I searched through and couldn't find it in there. I've never been aware of a rule like this. Sounds like a nice feat, though.

 

[whatisitgoodfor]

Where is this? Is it in Song and Silence?

It's in S&S. The section concerning new uses for old skills. (IIRC)

 

[Particle_Man]

another sneaky option

I think that if a rogue is in meelee and successfully bluffs a monster, the monster loses its dex bonus to the
rogue's next attack which is thus a sneak attack.
This is one case where the rogue does not have
to be flanking.

But I think the rogue is giving up his action to bluff, so can only do this trick every other
round, even if it works every time.

 

[Particle_Man]

epicly sneaky

I think there is a feat in the epic rulebook
that allows a rogue with the "opportunist" special
ability to treat each opportunistic attack as a
sneak attack.

 

[kreynolds]

Re: another sneaky option

I think that if a rogue is in meelee and successfully bluffs a monster, the monster loses its dex bonus to the
rogue's next attack which is thus a sneak attack.

Yes. It's described under the Bluff skill, ironically enough.

This is one case where the rogue does not have
to be flanking.

There are many cases where a Rogue does not have to flank in order to sneak attack, such as during the surprise round, attacking while hidden, attacking while invisible, etc.

 

[kreynolds]

Re: epicly sneaky

I think there is a feat in the epic rulebook
that allows a rogue with the "opportunist" special
ability to treat each opportunistic attack as a
sneak attack.

I believe the feat you are referring to is called Sneak Attack of Opportunity, which allows you to add your sneak attack damage to attacks of opportunity.

 

[ZR]

This was in another post BUT:

I allow a thief who is in melee, one on one, and in a normal round where the opponent is not flat footed to sneek attack if:

They can sucessfully tumble DC25 + BAB. If they fail they prevoke an attack of opportunity.

Do most people think this is fair??

 

[Destil]

Climbing creatures are denied their dex bonus to AC. As are swimming ones. (Unless they have climb or swim speeds)

A very often overlooked option.

 

[Sejs]

ZR -

what it sounds like is you're using a Tumble house rule to simulate the Bluff skill Feinting In Combat thing.

A successful Bluff check (opposed by the target's Sense Motive check) will deny the opponent hid Dex bonus against your next melee attack.. thus allowing a solo rogue to sneak attack. It is a misc. stanard action that doesn't draw an attack of opportunity, with penalties for less humanoid / intelligent opponents. There is no penality to retry on subsequent rounds. (pg 64, phb.)


There is also a feat in Song and Silence that allows you to make a bluff check to feint as a move-equavelant action, rather than a standard. Name is Quicker Than The Eye, and unfortunatly I don't remember the requirements other than a 19 dexterity.

Hope this is of some use.