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Class Compendium Feats and Weaponmaster is out!

Aegeri

First Post
Here is a direct link so you can go and get the feats. I'm not sure if they are behind the paywall or not. I would suspect not but I won't say for sure. After a quick look I totally called that you would need multiple feats for a wizard to pick up mage school benefits (from a discussion ages ago). You need three feats to pick all of them up - albeit getting evocation works nicely I have to admit. They do in fact require the previous feat as well, so a wizard needs at least 3 feats to pinch everything a mage gets (but that was obvious, it was NEVER EVER going to be 1 feat).

Anyway it is now up for those to see.

Edit: Fighter (Weaponmaster) is out as well and guess what, come and get it was nerfed. Hilarious.

Edit2: Wow was it ever nerfed.
 
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This is a step in the right direction. A small step, but still.

More, WotC, more. Please. D&D has felt pretty dead the last few months -- more articles like these will hopefully get the blood pumping a little bit.
 

Incenjucar

Legend
A free book is certainly a good way to soothe a few hurts.

Though man I really wish they didn't mix the class training feats up with the divinity feats like that.
 

Obryn

Hero
CaGI really had to be nerfed, sadly. When no other power at a given level is even competitive...

edit: I just read it, and I don't think it's all that nerfed, honestly. While you lose the auto-pull and ability mod damage, it's nevertheless a Weapon vs. Will attack now, so you're a lot more likely to do the damage. Still a really incredible power, honestly.

(And, fwiw, you now auto-mark every enemy in a close burst 3, not just those you could get adjacent to you - and thus attack - before.)

-O
 
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Nemesis Destiny

Adventurer
CaGI really had to be nerfed, sadly. When no other power at a given level is even competitive...

-O
That being the case, I'd have expected Rain of Blows to get the bat as well, but it didn't.

I will note that I don't disagree with you, I am just a little surprised.
 

chitzk0i

Explorer
I was disappointed that they reprinted the same old bottom-basement powers with only a couple nerfs. Why go to all this trouble just to stick some flavor text on the exact same thing?

Then I reminded myself they cancelled the book this was going to be in, most likely because it wouldn't sell well. :/
 

Obryn

Hero
That being the case, I'd have expected Rain of Blows to get the bat as well, but it didn't.

I will note that I don't disagree with you, I am just a little surprised.
Rain of Blows is only godlike under certain optimizations, and only with certain weapons and stats. Otherwise, it's just an Encounter Twin Strike, against a single target. CaGI was basically an auto-choice - it might as well have been the Fighter L7 Class Feature.

I don't think there's any comparison, honestly.

-O
 


Nemesis Destiny

Adventurer
Rain of Blows is only godlike under certain optimizations, and only with certain weapons and stats. Otherwise, it's just an Encounter Twin Strike, against a single target. CaGI was basically an auto-choice - it might as well have been the Fighter L7 Class Feature.

I don't think there's any comparison, honestly.

-O
Most of the fighters I've had in my games or played along side in others' games have used it (Rain of Blows), and to really good effect. I guess though, that they were all built to take good advantage of it. It strikes me as the kind of power that's worth building for.

Upon a bigger picture examination, you're right though, and checking the compendium, I see now that it had already been nerfed quite a while ago. That's what I get for looking something up in the book. Heh.

Now that I think of it, not just most fighters I've played beside or had in a game took CaGI - ALL of them did. And for good reason. I again agree with you in that I don't think it's much weaker now though, if at all.
 

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