clerics with more than 2 Domains

Endur

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I'm kind of peeved that Clerics only get two domains.

Some of the Gods actually have as many as seven domains available to them (FR, etc.), not counting prestige domains.

Has anyone come up with a good BALANCED house rule for clerics to obtain access to more than two domains? What about magic items?

Would giving up a feat be fair to get access to another domain? What about giving up two feats to get access to another domain?

Tom
 

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There are feats that will allow clerics to access more than one domain. There are a couple o' prestige classes that will allow the same.

The feat route: pre-lvl20 appears to take 2 feats(1 for the domain power, 1 for the domain granted ability). It's balanced(IMO) since many of the granted powers are easily on a par with most feats, and a feat is definitely worth wider spell access(but with a lack of additional slots... sigh).

The PrC route: Divine Disciple(FRCS) allows an additional domain and there may be one in the DotF(tho I'm not sure... PrC domains may supercede clerical domains).

Hope that helps.
 

Zentermi said:
There are feats that will allow clerics to access more than one domain. There are a couple o' prestige classes that will allow the same.

What feat is that?

The PrC route: Divine Disciple(FRCS) allows an additional domain and there may be one in the DotF(tho I'm not sure... PrC domains may supercede clerical domains).

I'm not sure if it's official, but I'd certainly allow any PC with any PrC that offers a prestige domain to take a standard domain instead.

There's also the Shaman class from OA, which gains a 3rd domain normally.

All that being said I think that all the complaints about 'there are too many feats, the fighter needs more bonus feats!', "there are to many skills, every class needs more skill points", "there are to many spells, the soceror needs more spells known" etc. are missing the point. Choice is good!!! And hard choices are better!!!
 

Certainly as noted there are Prestige Classes that allow extra domains; but there are no official Feats allowing either regular or prestige domains.

I would agree that a Domain is probably worth two Feats; there are previous House Rules threads on exactly this topic if you have access to Search.

I would suggest if introducing a House Feat that you require a stiff prerequisite (e.g. Skill Focus (Knowledge[Religion])) so that the cleric must evince real dedication.
 

I have not, as yet found any WotC feats that allow for additional domains.

Ultimate Feats(Mongoose... alot o' folks are leery of allowing their books into their campaigns) has Additional Domain: Religion 8 ranks, grants access to the spells of another of your deity's domains. I thought that book also had the granted ability feat as well, but cannot find it now.

Mongoose... is rarely counted as 'official'. I certainly never have counted it as such. That feat looked fair to me tho.

I'm pretty certain there is an Epic-Level 'Additional Domain' feat... which grants both aspects of a domain. I really don't feel like looking it up.
 
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Manual of the Planes has a Divine Agent (or was it Divine Emissary?) PrC that grants you an extra domain. It's a nice class, much better than the crappy FRCS Divine Disciple (sacred defense is the suckiest excuse for a prestige ability ever), except you get jacked on your spellcasting progression, so buyer beware.
 
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There are several in DotF that give you access to one or more extra domains, but only two of them actually let you choose which domain you gain, rathan than forcing it upon you. They're the Contemplative and Warpriest PrCs.

Though the latter does appear to be messed up slightly in my copy of DotF, the level progression table listing that you get access to two extra domains, but the write up only listing on, and that's a forced one to boot.
 


Having observed how silly clerics get in terms of power, I don't have a lot of sympathy for "Why can't my cleric do as much as my GOD" questions :rolleyes:. That said, my tinkering with how to make Clerics less powerfull, and more in tune with the theme of their diety has included reducing their intitial domains to 1, but giving them a choice of additional domain every so often. I'd probably give them one more each at 8th and 16th, but people who don't object to clerical over-torquing might try 6th/12th/18th. Either way, it undoes some of the 'frontloading' of the cleric, giving them a reason to stay in class rather than ALWAYS loading up on prestige classes...
 


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