Combat Challenge - PCs vs Dragon

[Wippit Guud]

I was thinking of trying to test out just how effective dragons are against PCs, and vice versa. However, everyone I know in the area lacks (a lot) in effecting D&D strategies, so I thought maybe we can do something over the boards.

What I need is 4-6 people to create level 20 characters, and I'll create a great wyrm dragon. The actual number of characters depends on what CR, but I was going to let the players agree on the color. I also need another person to act as DM, that everyone agrees on. We take a week to make out respective characters (and in my case, the lair), and then on the in-character board we play it out, and see if A) dragons are up to snuff in CR, and B) any of the hundreds of dragon strategies I've read actually work.

To be fair, the dragon will not take any character classes, as that my skew the results, but everything else is available. I would also need the chosen DM's approval for what magic items, if any, a dragon could actually use.


Any volunteers?

 

[Sollir Furryfoot]

Sure thing, i'll volunteer

Edit-What books are allowed, and is this level 20 or ECL 20?

 

[hammymchamham]

20th lvl human commoner
STR 15 DEX 10 CON 10 INT 10 WIS 10 CHA 10
Feats: SWP: Club, Toughness x 8
Skills: Profession (Farmer), Profession (Cook), Craft (Spoons)

 

[Piratecat]

You call yourself a min-maxer? That commoner should have weapon focus (dung) at the very least!

 

[Sollir Furryfoot]

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So Piratecat, I guess you're the ECL 20 cat? Start fighting!

Hrm, commoner won last time, but will the cat win this time?

 

[hammymchamham]

You call yourself a min-maxer? That commoner should have weapon focus (dung) at the very least!

I never called myself a min/maxer. I made a 20th level charecter, as asked for by the thread maker guy, FAG

 

[Wippit Guud]

So, I take it, but the comedy relief going on, only one person showed any real interest. Fine by me.

 

[mmu1]

I'll do it... Can we have some more info on how to create the characters? Standard 25 point-puy, with by-the-book wealth levels? Which supplements are fair game?

 

[Wippit Guud]

Well... I was going to suggest 30 point buy, but since the CRs were based on the three core books, how about using just thoe 3?

 

[mmu1]

In that case, standard PHB races only, I assume?

Another issue is... Should we, in the interest of science, be making "normal" characters of the kind most people'd play, only 20th level, or do we assume that a victory over a great wyrm is unlikely enough as is, and just pull out all the stops on the min-max?