Coming in May: Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes! [UPDATED!]

So they just gave the title and showed the cover mock-ups; no specific info till Monday?

 

[Demetrios1453]

I'm also hoping for some of the Arch Fey (to go with the Elf and Eladrin stuff) and maybe some Great Old Ones or lords of the Shadowfell (Raven Queen comes to mind)? Don't forget they also mentioned "Elder Elemental Beings."

Hopefully the latter won't just be the four Princes of Elemental Evil; they might very well appear, but hopefully we'll get some CR 15 or so greater classic (earth, air, fire, water) elementals.

And I didn't even think about the eladrin (the 2e/3e CG group of celestial races, not the PC race which we know will be appearing), even though we were just discussing celestials. Granted, they might now have become officially fey, but I would be perfectly fine with that (pretty logical, actually) change, as long as we get to see them updated.

 

[GarrettKP]

Hopefully the latter won't just be the four Princes of Elemental Evil; they might very well appear, but hopefully we'll get some CR 15 or so greater classic (earth, air, fire, water) elementals.

And I didn't even think about the eladrin (the 2e/3e CG group of celestial races, not the PC race which we know will be appearing), even though we were just discussing celestials. Granted, they might now have become officially fey, but I would be perfectly fine with that (pretty logical, actually) change, as long as we get to see them updated.

They mentioned the Leviathan as an Elder Elemental that is Tarrasque level. Also Crawford implied That there is also an Eladrin race that were like the Elf PC race but ascended to full Fey and even into Arborea, which would fit the older Celestial version.

 

[Demetrios1453]

They mentioned the Leviathan as an Elder Elemental that is Tarrasque level. Also Crawford implied That there is also an Eladrin race that were like the Elf PC race but ascended to full Fey and even into Arborea, which would fit the older Celestial version.

OK good, I missed that in all the info we've been getting the last few days (which is really quite refreshingly different from other announcements), so that statement seems to me we'll likely see the greater eladrin updated.

 

[Parmandur]

Other tidbits from reading around about the Twitch:

Greyhawk is going to be used as the primary example for the Core race lore, and mention of Gnomish mechanical lifeforms...

Shadar-Kai are in as an Elven subrace, and many of the monsters will be Shadowfell related (Raven Queen versus ??? as one of the big narrative conflicts, maybe).

No Abyssal Tieflings, and an emphatic statement that playable Mindflayers will never, ever be a thing in D&D.

Apparently, there are a lot of random tables for both DMs and players to use.

 

[Parmandur]

Rogue modrons as a race, please?

You know what, they spent an awfully long timem on Modron/Slaadi lore in Lore You Should Know recently, and it seemed set up as...a great conflict of the multiverse. And they spent quite a bit of that discussing Rogue Modrons and how they work: I wouldn't be the least surprised to see that.

 

[Sword of Spirit]

They mentioned the Leviathan as an Elder Elemental that is Tarrasque level. Also Crawford implied That there is also an Eladrin race that were like the Elf PC race but ascended to full Fey and even into Arborea, which would fit the older Celestial version.

Sounds like the Elaldrin Elf subrace that has been published in a UA article.

I just hope they don't decide to totally jettison the original Celestial "angel" Eladrin. That's rage-quit level for me. They can rename them "Phlarbnoodles", but they sure as heck better not be written out (currently they've been completely ignored, but not technically stated not to be around). The LG, NG, and CG Exemplars are multiversally necessary components of the cosmology.

 

[Irda Ranger]

Hmmmm. This makes me wonder if the big adventure this year will be The Great Modron March or Blood War.

But on the whole, this is the first WotC book in a while that managed to check every “Things I don’t care about much” box. The Gith/MF stuff seems semi interesting.

Also, *not* a fan of the metaphysics that Good becomes Bad if it wins. That way lies nihilism. No thanks.

 

[Demetrios1453]

Sounds like the Elaldrin Elf subrace that has been published in a UA article.

I just hope they don't decide to totally jettison the original Celestial "angel" Eladrin. That's rage-quit level for me. They can rename them "Phlarbnoodles", but they sure as heck better not be written out (currently they've been completely ignored, but not technically stated not to be around). The LG, NG, and CG Exemplars are multiversally necessary components of the cosmology.

As I stated a few posts ago, going on what [MENTION=6811472]GarrettKP[/MENTION] said, I'm guessing they will be appearing in the book, pretty much the same, but just reclassified as fey. Which, frankly, they were more than halfway towards being back in 2e and 3e. So they would remain CG Exemplars, but just not celestials...

Does anyone have Crawford's exact words that GarrettKP is alluding to?

 

[gyor]

Sounds like the Elaldrin Elf subrace that has been published in a UA article.

I just hope they don't decide to totally jettison the original Celestial "angel" Eladrin. That's rage-quit level for me. They can rename them "Phlarbnoodles", but they sure as heck better not be written out (currently they've been completely ignored, but not technically stated not to be around). The LG, NG, and CG Exemplars are multiversally necessary components of the cosmology.

I don't remember which book, Dungeon Masters Guide or PHB, but Elves in Arvandar the Elf after life end up as Celestials, so yes there are Eldarin Celestials, as well as Sea Elf Celestials, High Elf Celestials, Drow Celestials, Wood Elf Celestials, Avariel Celestials, and the real WTF, Shadar Kai Celestials.

Speaking of Shadar Kai it's confirmed they are now Elves, WTF, how does one explain there connection to the Netheril Empire and that there is a ritual to turn a human into a Shadar Kai? Massive recon.

They are even reconning Tieflings from within the edition itself, the SCAG had rules for none Infernal Tieflings. It also noted that several of the Mulhorand Gods took the form of Tieflings (probably Set and Sebek, and weirdly maybe Anhur who is Chaotic Good). So how does that make sense when now Tieflings are only linked to the Devils. Heck none Infernal Tieflings appear in the 5e Novels?

The stuff on none humanoid Eldarin sounds cool.

A lot of weird stuff are going to be in this book, like the reason Elfs have so many different forms is that they used to be shapeshifters before their fall from being Fey (this is before the schism between the Drow and other Elven Races), and they will talk about the time when they were fey.

That Shadar Kai are now Elves means that
A) Elven High Magic should work for them,
B) they are welcome on Arvandar, even though they just fought a war and helped destroy a Elf nation called Myth Drannar.
C) Many don't speak Elvish, they speak Netherese or whatever they spoke in Nantir Vale.
D) They have aquired some Elven abilities like immunity to sleep that they didn't have before.
E) Shadar Kai can become Spellsingers.
F) Shadar Kai can take Elven Accuracy

I wonder if Fey'ri the demonic elves get a mention.

For new monsters Demons, Devils, Archdevils, Levethan, Gnomes built Clockwork constructs, variants to Cambions, Demon and Devil Cultists, creatures from the Shadowfell associated with Shadar Kai, non humanoid Eldarin (fey and maybe celestial). Some new Duegar and Gith monsters. 130+ pages of Monsters is a lot. I don't know for sure, but I'm betting the Lich Queen of the Githyanki are in. New Yugoloths are in.

For races and subraces it appears there are starting with Sea Elves (yeah), Eldarin (yeah), Shadar Kai (yeah, but also WTF???), Tiefling Subraces linked to the Archdevils (except Asmodeus who is just the default Tiefling). And the Gith, Githzerai and Githyanki subraces.

I really hope they have some kind of note dealing with FR and Tieflings and Shadar Kai. Sea Elves are easy as are Githzerai and Githyanki.

Sections include the Blood War, Elves vs. Drow, Dwarves vs. Duegar, Gith vs. Mindflayers, and Halflings and Gnomes chilling out in their own chapter that is free from major conflicts, but at least Gnomes get an invention table. I wonder if Deep Gnomes and Whisper Halflings get discussed in this Chapter.

It seems like the Player section is going to be very small, just one race, with 3 subraces for Elves (Sea, Eldarin, Shadar Kai), and 8 for Tieflings (Zariel, Mephosilies, Belzebub, Feirna/Beliel, Glaysa, Levisitus, Dispater, Mammon), Gith (Githyanki and Githzerai). That's probably less space then Volo's Guide To Monsters gave to races.

Upcoming D&D Beyond video on Elves.

Shadar Kai gain Trance, Fey Ancestory, Keen Senses, Elvish, (they had Darkvision already), and a 700 year life span (or more).

 

[mach1.9pants]

I'm not sure if it has already been mentioned, sorry if it has, but MToF is available on DDB with "By pre-ordering on D&D Beyond, you will receive exclusive character portrait frames, sheet backdrops, and theme colors[sic] to be used with upcoming character sheet updates."