Converting Epic Level Beings

[Shade]

For HD, did you want to stick with 16 like your original conversion, or go higher? If we use the HD/4.5 rule that we sometimes use for unique 1E creatures, he'd have 22 HD, which is a bit more epic.

 

[BOZ]

yeah, i'm fine with going higher. when i originally converted that in 2001, there weren't many high level critters to compare to.

 

[Shade]

Will 22 HD be enough? That would put him in the CR 15-16 range, slightly better than a storm giant, but less than a death giant.

 

[BOZ]

good point. what CR should we be aiming for with this fellow anyway?

 

[Shade]

Well, if we want him to be epic, it should be at least 21.

A titan is CR 21. The ability to heal automatically every round outta count for some serious CR. It is at least comparable to the titan's potent array of SLAs.

 

[BOZ]

well, let's see. in the D&DG, he starts off (mind you, of course this goes up) with 100 hp. that's less than cerberus (almost half), and way way less than any of the greater titans we converted. not that hp should be the sole determiner of CR mind you!

so, do we need to go higher than CR 21 with him?

 

[Shade]

Let's start with CR 21 and see how it plays out.

 

[BOZ]

sounds good. what HD should we start at, assuming CR 21 and his abilities?

 

[Shade]

I see two options:

1) Start at a high HD, gaining only size bonuses, etc. with grow ability.
2) Start at a lower HD, similar to a hill giant, gaining additional HD with the growth ability as well.

 

[BOZ]

i say keep him at the same HD, and let Con bonuses do the rest.