Converting Epic Level Beings

[Shade]

Let's give it a shot and see where it takes us.

 

[BOZ]

o-tay! classic bruiser tough guy it is.

 

[Clifford]

Maybe Divine rank 0? seems like he might have some Divine rank to help Smoke those dieties. Also 66 sounds Spiffy as most gods have atleast 60 DH/levels (20 outsider + 40 ish class levels.)

His weird Triangle thingy is prolly an artifact. May is jugjest the folowing powers for it. My idea dosent fit the descritpion but it dose fit the spirit of the item and the monster. By the old description the creature could make a +1000 spear or something freakish like that.

Talisman of Ma Yuan
This small triangular peice of stone has many potent and varries powers. It can Chang into any weapon. This weapon is of the same side at the weilder of Ma Yuans Talisman for single handed weapons and one size catagory larger for 2 handed weapons.

This weapon counts as a +6 Keen, divine Dread weapon of the appropriate type. Also The weilder of the talasman may designate aditional Enchantment bonuses at whim upto an aditional +8 worth of bonuses.
For example the weilder is battling a red dragon and thus may make the weapon become a Icey burst weapon (+2) and A dragon bane weapon (+2) And top the rest out as aditional engancment bonuses (+4 for a total of +10)

ABILITY SCORES
here are my sugjestions

Str 45, Dex 18, Con 34, Int 20, Wis 20, Cha 25
Going off 66 hit dice this means.

23 feats
7 normal + 15 posibly epic.

 

[Shade]

If we assign it divine rank 0, does it gain a bunch of additional powers? Alternatively, we could make him an abomination (as is the hectatoncheires, another "killer of the gods").

Interesting start on the "triangle-thingee".

I think he actually gets one more epic feat: [(66-21)/3]+1 = 16.

For the ability scores, I'd bump the Strength up to 50. Some of the other epic outsiders that aren't as large are that strong.

 

[BOZ]

i'd be more inclined to go with the abomination-like-ness than giving him a DvR. but that's just me.

 

[BOZ]

before assigning any stats to him, i think we need to settle on a CR first.

Thoughts... yes, it says, "killer of the gods". But then, in 1E, it was a heck of a lot easier to kill gods. I'd say he might be powerful enough to take out some DvR1 or even 2 demigods, but only after a tough fight (or if the god is unusually weak), though he shouldn't have as much of a challenge with avatars. He has 300 hp, which is more than Cerberus, but less than most of the Titans in the same book, so I would make his CR between the two groups, like 22-25.

 

[Shade]

25. That way he's the equivalent of a mid-ranged archfiend or celestial paragon.

 

[BOZ]

grrrreat! now, given that and the fact that he is Colossal, how does Clifford's suggested Dex 18, Con 34, Int 20, Wis 20, Cha 25 with Shade's Str 50 sound? especially when compared to archfiends and paragons who are similar in CR?

 

[Shade]

It is tough to compare Str to similar archfiends, as none are Colossal! However, it is only 5 higher than the CR 20 tarrasque, equal to the CR 25 adamantine golem, and 20 less than the CR 24 stone colossus.

 

[BOZ]

does the fact that he has four arms make a difference there?