Converting Oriental Adventures creatures

[Cleon]

Added to Homebrews.

We figured out the pain effect, but not its delivery. It has a bite that deals no damage. Should we model it off the vampire, requiring a grapple? Or simply add a secondary bite attack that deals only "pain"?

I prefer the secondary attack approach to a grapple.

 

[freyar]

The original monster reads like it's a secondary bite attack with no damage. I wouldn't mind adding minimal damage, either, but that's straying a bit.

 

[Shade]

The original monster reads like it's a secondary bite attack with no damage. I wouldn't mind adding minimal damage, either, but that's straying a bit.

I wouldn't either, since it helps explain whether it would effect a creature with damage reduction, etc. Still, I can live with "and bite +x melee (pain)".

 

[Cleon]

I wouldn't either, since it helps explain whether it would effect a creature with damage reduction, etc. Still, I can live with "and bite +x melee (pain)".

I prefer the damage-less version.

 

[Shade]

Updated.

 

[freyar]

Make the Pain (Su), and the DR business seems less relevant.

 

[Shade]

I'm not opposed to Su.

 

[Cleon]

I'm not opposed to Su.

Supernatural works better for me than extraordinary.

 

[Shade]

Su it is. Updated.

Suggested duration for the pain? The original had it lasting 10-30 minutes!

 

[Cleon]

Su it is. Updated.

Suggested duration for the pain? The original had it lasting 10-30 minutes!

1d3 minutes? That's the same number of rounds as the original.