Cost of magic items you create (SOLVED!!)

[kreynolds]

Caliban? I have yet to see your opinion on this. Got one?

 

[Artoomis]

Incorrect. Read page 145 of the DMG, Character Wealth, 2nd column. It is a guideline, but it is most certainly not restricted to creating characters above 1st level.

My mistake. It's right there in B&W.

 

[Weeble]

Weeble. I read what you posted. There's no need to requote it.

It was an accident so there was no need to mention it.

 

[kreynolds]

It was an accident so there was no need to mention it.

I see. You can edit your post though. It's happened to me before. Usually I just edit it to read "Doh! Double post!".

 

[kreynolds]

My mistake. It's right there in B&W.

Do me a favor? Tell Weeble that?

 

[Weeble]

Do me a favor? Tell Weeble that?

I understand full well that this is a guideline. Even if you call it a rule, it has nothing to do with the thread starter.

 

[kreynolds]

I understand full well that this is a guideline. Even if you call it a rule, it has nothing to do with the thread starter.

Wow. You still don't get it. *shrug*

 

[Weeble]

Wow. You still don't get it. *shrug*

You're going to hurt your rotator cuff.

 

[dregoth]

i read this from the start, and i want to know if i got this straight:

-you've made a 1st lvl character
-you want to give him wealth(in the form of a magical item)
-what value is the item, for determining gp limit

if i got this straight, i think you should consider the fact that a character has a history(unless you want to make a 2-year old fighter). think about how he acquired the item, did he find it? was it a gift? did he slay a monster and retrieved it? then i think you should count it full gp value.

you should only count magic items at creation cost if they made it themselves, but you can't spend so much xp that you lose a lvl so if you made a 1st lvl character he wouldn't have any xp to spend.

 

[Ridley's Cohort]

That said, I'd use creation cost, not market value. Characters who create itmes pay not only creation costs in gp, but also pay in experience points. For a lower level charactyers, this is quite significant - a higher level character can, if I remember a previous discussion correctly, effectively double his value of possesions by spending ALL his value on creating items - at the cost of about 1/4 to 1/2 a level, I think - that's because what you are "allowerd" at each level goers up faster than the number of experience points you need per level.

The xp cost is a real, but modest cost.

A big part of the cost is the item creation feat itself.

From the balance POV, it is pretty obvious that a wizard who can make wands will have greater nominal wealth than one who never crafts items. This applies both to newly created and ongoing characters. I do not see any problem with that; certainly it is how the feats were designed to operate.

Comparing two wizard of exact same wealth in "market value", it is obvious that the one with no item creation feats is more powerful. I am not quite sure what the point is of getting item creation feats at all if you do not gain any benefit.