Creating Davy Jones (now with Pirates of the Caribbean 3 spoilers)
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guardianfallenangel
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when the krakken is summoned jones has that line that he says, perhaps thats what allows him to direct it's actions. summon it useing the ship as a sounding bell, then with the "magic" command word your allowed to command it.???? just a thought
nightmareone
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Maybe... I wonder if he has a "deal" with the kraken too...not control, just to attack the nearest ship other than his when he calls it.
El Jeraldo
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Nice Russian Reversal quote.
On to my comment. After reading all of the debate above I though I was fixed with the aberration type, but then I read the comment posted by Gothenem about Will cutting the crewmember open and the water and fish poured out. This made me think a little about the type of the crew. Yes, I agree that it is very aberration like to have your insides be water and fish but didn't all of the crew come to be apart of the crew by Davy cursing them with his deal, and wouldn't that mean that hey were all human to start with?
This then brings me to my second question: can humanoids turn into aberrations?
Things I know...
-Illithids can turn humanoids into aberrations with their grub like things, but according to Lords of Madness the grub thing consumes the entire brain and merely reforms the outer shell of a body, thus leaving o% of the original person so I don’t see that as changing them into an aberration as they are no longer existing even in the memories of the new illithid and Davy's crew clearly remembers their original lives (i.e. Bootstrap Bill).
-Humanoids can turn into monstrous humanoids by acquiring a template (i.e. Feral template in Savage Species)
So as I am not sure as to how Davy came to be my conclusion leads me to believe that his entire crew originally came from humanoids and thus have only acquired templates over time to come to the state they are in now (i.e. having you interior and exterior body composition change, such as to be more aquatic like, which is logical since they spend a great deal of their time under water and one would want to adapt to their surroundings to become more efficient). My conclusion is at the very least the crew are monstrous humanoids and most likely also Davy himself as I believe his tale is that because his love died he gave himself to the sea which leads me to believe that he also used to be human, but I am not positive.
Thanks for hearing me out.
-El Jeraldo, The Jerry of Gold
On to my comment. After reading all of the debate above I though I was fixed with the aberration type, but then I read the comment posted by Gothenem about Will cutting the crewmember open and the water and fish poured out. This made me think a little about the type of the crew. Yes, I agree that it is very aberration like to have your insides be water and fish but didn't all of the crew come to be apart of the crew by Davy cursing them with his deal, and wouldn't that mean that hey were all human to start with?
This then brings me to my second question: can humanoids turn into aberrations?
Things I know...
-Illithids can turn humanoids into aberrations with their grub like things, but according to Lords of Madness the grub thing consumes the entire brain and merely reforms the outer shell of a body, thus leaving o% of the original person so I don’t see that as changing them into an aberration as they are no longer existing even in the memories of the new illithid and Davy's crew clearly remembers their original lives (i.e. Bootstrap Bill).
-Humanoids can turn into monstrous humanoids by acquiring a template (i.e. Feral template in Savage Species)
So as I am not sure as to how Davy came to be my conclusion leads me to believe that his entire crew originally came from humanoids and thus have only acquired templates over time to come to the state they are in now (i.e. having you interior and exterior body composition change, such as to be more aquatic like, which is logical since they spend a great deal of their time under water and one would want to adapt to their surroundings to become more efficient). My conclusion is at the very least the crew are monstrous humanoids and most likely also Davy himself as I believe his tale is that because his love died he gave himself to the sea which leads me to believe that he also used to be human, but I am not positive.
Thanks for hearing me out.
-El Jeraldo, The Jerry of Gold
DnDChick
Demon Queen of Templates
guardianfallenangel said:
The only problem with that is he didn't say the phrase every time he called the Kraken.
Trivia time! That phrase is a paraphase of Job 3:7-8.
7: May that night be barren; may no shout of joy be heard in it.
8: May those who curse days curse that day, those who are ready to rouse Leviathan.
Gothenem
Explorer
El Jeraldo said:
The half-illithid template (Fiend Folio, Underdark), and corrupted creature template (Book of Vile Darkness) can turn humanoids into aberrations and are templates.
Additionally, the Aberration type fits the concept better than Monstrous humanoids. They are more than just monstrous humanoids. Not many monstrous humanoids have separatable-heads that can later grow legs and move on their own. Not very many have fish-for-guts either.
DnDChick
Demon Queen of Templates
The trailer shows Davy Jones to be quite acrobatic (or at the very least having LOTS of ranks in the Balance skill) and a skilled fencer on par with if not better than Jack Sparrow.
www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=8627
www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=8627
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