crit multipliers and ... more multipliers?

[Negative Zero]

i know this question is rather simplistic, and the answer seems obvious to me, but i just want to get the opinions of a few people here. so please pardon me while i act blonde for a moment

if, for some reason, you do double damage on a charge (like in the armour i talked about here), and you crit with a x2 weapon, the double double becomes x3, right? now if it's a x3 weapon, does it become a x4 crit?

~NegZ

 

[fba827]

I am not basing this on anything out of the books, so having said that, I don't entirely agree.

You are doubling your damage, not increasing your crit modifier.

The difference? Doubling damage is doubling your total end damage

Increasing your crit modifier is listed as its own game mechanic.

therefore, I am inclined to say..

you find your total damage and then double it.

not increase your crit mod and then calculate total damage.

just seems more right to me that way.

now, having said all that, i repeta my initial statement. I am not looking at the books so can't really offer any basis for my statements.

 

[hong]

i know this question is rather simplistic, and the answer seems obvious to me, but i just want to get the opinions of a few people here. so please pardon me while i act blonde for a moment

if, for some reason, you do double damage on a charge (like in the armour i talked about here), and you crit with a x2 weapon, the double double becomes x3, right? now if it's a x3 weapon, does it become a x4 crit?

~NegZ

Yes. All "multiplication" in D&D follows the rules laid out in the Appendix to the PHB, on p.275.

 

[Jeremy]

No because the terminology is slightly wrong.

The crit is still a x2 crit, it's just when you figure the damage and you are already doing x3, you use the multiplication rules of D&D to do x4 damage total.

The crit doesn't do x4 on top of your x3 which is what saying "the crit modifier grow to x4" seems to say.

So yes your final damage is x4 on a critical, but no the critical modifier itself is not x4.

 

[hong]

No because the terminology is slightly wrong.

The crit is still a x2 crit, it's just when you figure the damage and you are already doing x3, you use the multiplication rules of D&D to do x4 damage total.

The crit doesn't do x4 on top of your x3 which is what saying "the crit modifier grow to x4" seems to say.

So yes your final damage is x4 on a critical, but no the critical modifier itself is not x4.

Don't you have a Sultans of Smack thread you should be managing?

 

[Artoomis]

The "x4" answer is correct.

One of the big reforms in 3e was the way damage mulipliers work.

Take 1 off the multiplier and add it to what you the multplier you already have.

For example:

x2 = x2 (1 + 1)

X2 and then x3 = x4 (2 + 2 more) (double damage plus a critical with a x3 critical weapon)

"Double damage" is the same as "x2"

 

[Jeremy]

Don't you have a Sultans of Smack thread you should be managing?

I'm boosting it's view count--er, I mean, keeping up to date on it. Don't you worry.

 

[Negative Zero]

"Double damage" is the same as "x2"

is it really? is double damage the same thing as a x2 crit multiplier? ... *even less sure now*

 

[Crothian]

is it really? is double damage the same thing as a x2 crit multiplier? ... *even less sure now*

Yes, it is.

 

[Negative Zero]

so, when a spell does "double damage" to a creature, for example one that takes double damage from fire, do you roll double the number of dice? or do you roll regularly and then multiply by 2?

~NegZ