D&D and the rising pandemic

[Zardnaar]

Just saw an interesting article about Covid-19’s ability to survive on surgical masks (7days) and cloth (2 days), which really illustrates both why you need to wash your hands AND why experts keep pointing out how to properly remove a mask (from behind your ears).

I've been assuming two weeks.

Article here had a book published in the 30s about Spanish Flu.

Basically hygiene, incinerate, and isolation.

Great grandparents may not have the science but they had common sense.

They closed schools back in 1919.

 

[FrogReaver]

I don't follow. You find what hard to believe?
That nearly 200 people per day could be dying of covid in their homes in NYC and going uncounted due to lack of tests (first quote)?
Or that 9 in 10 cases are unreported (second quote)?

Sorry, that the reason the people are dying and going unreported is because of lack of tests.

 

[Zardnaar]

Sorry, that the reason the people are dying and going unreported is because of lack of tests.

Count the bodies. Compare with pre Corvid daily amounts.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

Sorry, that the reason the people are dying and going unreported is because of lack of tests.

I think the disconnect is that people ARE dying and going unreported because they are untested, but it's not because there's not enough tests - it's because there's not reason to test them. A lot of this counting is for counting's sake - the numbers are nearly meaningless: We know that there are more active cases than are being counted. This is just saying that there's also more deaths than are being counted.

 

[FrogReaver]

I think the disconnect is that people ARE dying and going unreported because they are untested, but it's not because there's not enough tests - it's because there's not reason to test them. A lot of this counting is for counting's sake - the numbers are nearly meaningless: We know that there are more active cases than are being counted. This is just saying that there's also more deaths than are being counted.

Mostly agree. I still think there's potentially reason to test them. The more data we have on this thing the better we can fight it.

 

[FrogReaver]

I found this article interesting. Talking about 2019-2020 flu season being more severe than normal in the U.S. Article was written back in early January before all the Covid-19 stuff in the U.S.

2019-2020 Flu Season on Track to Be Especially Severe, New CDC Data Suggests

Mere conjecture, but any thoughts on if Covid-19 could have already been here in December/January and been misdiagnosed as Flu?

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

I found this article interesting. Talking about 2019-2020 flu season being more severe than normal in the U.S. Article was written back in early January before all the Covid-19 stuff in the U.S.

2019-2020 Flu Season on Track to Be Especially Severe, New CDC Data Suggests

Mere conjecture, but any thoughts on if Covid-19 could have already been here in December/January and been misdiagnosed as Flu?

Hard to say, but flu viruses mutate every season, which is why this season's flu shot only protects you from last season's flu virus and not any new mutations that spring up this season.

But I do remember hearing/reading about how more people this season seemed to be getting the Spring version of flu in the Fall/early Winter, which is apparently very unusual to have happen. Some of those cases could have been early coronavirus cases that we did not know were not flu because China covered up and lied about what was happening for maybe as much as a month or more. Instead of the first recognized case in the US being in mid-January, maybe it was here early to mid-December instead.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I found this article interesting. Talking about 2019-2020 flu season being more severe than normal in the U.S. Article was written back in early January before all the Covid-19 stuff in the U.S.

2019-2020 Flu Season on Track to Be Especially Severe, New CDC Data Suggests

Mere conjecture, but any thoughts on if Covid-19 could have already been here in December/January and been misdiagnosed as Flu?

Possible, especially if the vast majority of the cases were mild or asymptomatic.

In fact, there have been a couple researchers claiming it’s possible that Covid-19 has been in humans for many months if not years, but just wasn’t as virulent. They surmise that Wuhan may not be the actual original epicenter of infection.

And Icelandic researchers suggest that as many as 50% of all Covid-19 victims are asymptomatic.

 

[The Green Hermit]

And Icelandic researchers suggest that as many as 50% of all Covid-19 victims are asymptomatic.

Which is actually pretty reassuring. Now if we could just figure out how to keep the other 50% out of the ICU, we could get back to normal.

 

[Zardnaar]

Which is actually pretty reassuring. Now if we could just figure out how to keep the other 50% out of the ICU, we could get back to normal.

Seems to be around 10% of everyone else, 5% overall.