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Istbor

Dances with Gnolls
Yeah, I think people don't often think of the difference between 'pre-symptomatic' and 'asymptomatic'.

I think many are thinking you get the sniffles or a little sick, so those that do, can simple use their judgement to quarantine. Not realizing that asymptomatic could potentially mean someone not even feeling slightly off, but still contagious.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
I think many are thinking you get the sniffles or a little sick, so those that do, can simple use their judgement to quarantine.

(emphasis mine)

Ha! As if we had evidence that people did that! Ha, I say!

(Also, our culture is such that those on the lower end of the economic spectrum really don't have the choice to use judgement - if they aren't forced out of work such that unemployment is available, they have to work to put food on the table and keep a roof overhead.)
 

NotAYakk

Legend
That, of course, is part of the beauty of sewage testing*. You don't get to individuals, but you get a handle on the community, whether folks are showing symptoms or not.
And it seems reasonable that the amount of Covid-19 RNA you spew into the stew is proportional to how much is coming out your mouth.

Ain't that a beautiful image. Just let is sit there, and taste it.

Asymptomatic people spread the virus less than symptomatic people (per person) and they stop emitting C19 RNA sooner, but they suspect more are transmitted by asymptomatic people (because they don't know to self isolate). Hence encouraging everyone to wear masks.
 

Istbor

Dances with Gnolls
(emphasis mine)

Ha! As if we had evidence that people did that! Ha, I say!

(Also, our culture is such that those on the lower end of the economic spectrum really don't have the choice to use judgement - if they aren't forced out of work such that unemployment is available, they have to work to put food on the table and keep a roof overhead.)
Yeah, I felt I was opening myself up with that statement.

And correct, if your situation is go to work while a little under the weather, or lose your job/have hours cut, it's going to be tough not to choose money that keeps your family going over public safety.
 

NotAYakk

Legend
Yeah, I felt I was opening myself up with that statement.

And correct, if your situation is go to work while a little under the weather, or lose your job/have hours cut, it's going to be tough not to choose money that keeps your family going over public safety.
Sure, which is why we have generous emergency unemployment insurance, working on a national paid-sick-leave policy, health insurance not connected to your job, and generous loans for companies who don't fire their workers during this pandemic.

Oh wait, you mean the USA. Well, get rich or die to make the rich richer. Good luck.
 

Dannyalcatraz

Schmoderator
Staff member
Also, our culture is such that those on the lower end of the economic spectrum really don't have the choice to use judgement - if they aren't forced out of work such that unemployment is available, they have to work to put food on the table and keep a roof overhead.
There was an Indian person who observed a few weeks ago that self-quarantining snd social distancing were luxuries, both in short supply in his country.

They’re not exactly common elsewhere, either.
 
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Eltab

Hero
I want to live in the alternate reality where testing for COVID is so common for every dead (and live) body that cases like this are the biggest hurdle to accurate data.
I want to see the reality that a COVID test is available for say $10 (price of a pregnancy test) on the shelf at any Walgreens / CVS / Rite-Aid / &c, with no need for a prescription first, the thing is reliable, simple enough to be used at home, and provides an answer in a few minutes.

Invent something with most of those features and the general population will solve the problem themselves.
 

ad_hoc

Hero
I want to see the reality that a COVID test is available for say $10 (price of a pregnancy test) on the shelf at any Walgreens / CVS / Rite-Aid / &c, with no need for a prescription first, the thing is reliable, simple enough to be used at home, and provides an answer in a few minutes.

Invent something with most of those features and the general population will solve the problem themselves.

Or just, you know, free.
 

Dannyalcatraz

Schmoderator
Staff member
Well...this is a surprise.

Summary: animals are the Wuhan wet market tested negative for Covid-19, and several of the earliest cases had no ties to the wet market or Wuhan whatsoever. IOW, the odds of Wuhan’s wet market being the point of original infection are approaching zero- they’re thinking what we thought was the initial outbreaks was just a super-spreader event. The lack of known connections to Wuhan for some of the earliest infections also shoots holes in the lab accident theory.
 



ad_hoc

Hero
We all wish. But the staff making the kits expects to be paid, needs lights to see what they are doing, &c - so I'll be content with something easily affordable.

There is a way for a society to collect funds in order to pay for things that are for the good of that society.
 


I want to see the reality that a COVID test is available for say $10 (price of a pregnancy test) on the shelf at any Walgreens / CVS / Rite-Aid / &c, with no need for a prescription first, the thing is reliable, simple enough to be used at home, and provides an answer in a few minutes.

Invent something with most of those features and the general population will solve the problem themselves.
The problem is, Coronavirus tests aren't as easy to determine results for than as pregnancy tests. I imagine if they could be administered by laymen, they would do that.
 



Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
"Human capital" is an economic term. It has a specific meaning and while many have mistaken it in a "dehumanizing" manner, that's not how it's meant or how it was used.

Unless you know the speaker in question, I don't see as you have and greater standing than anyone else to say what was meant.

The fact that it is an economic jargon term does not mean it is not dehumanizing. If you say "human capital" rather than "people" you are surely removing the fact that they are humans beings with value beyond what they do economically from consideration - that is dehumanizing. Literally.

If nothing else, if you go on national television, in full knowledge that the entire nation might see it, and you are not aware of how your jargon terms may come across and avoid using them, you are dehumanizing, by displaying your complete lack of care for the audience's human sensibilities.
 

NotAYakk

Legend
Down to a single active case. No new cases for a week.
Looks like it's all bit wiped out.
Yay!

Well, "new cases" rarely catches asymptomatic carriers. But asymptomatic carriers either heal, or they infect someone who becomes symptomatic. And then contact tracing - targeted isolation - testing can backtrack and eliminate the asymptomatic.

So "all but". A week isn't enough to know it is wiped out.

Now the question: are you going to offer refuge to people who are willing to fly in, then quarantine while being tested for 2+ weeks? Could replace some tourism dollars in the short term!
 

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