D&D and the rising pandemic

[Umbran]

Disagree. We still need shelter that doesn't crumble around us -- which means hardware stores.

If your roof starts leaking, or your toilet fails, or the like, you need to be able to get things to keep it rolling.

You don't need to be able to put in that deck you always wanted, or do the spring landscaping planting. That stuff can wait, but is causing crowds in the big hardware stores.

Restaurants are important places to get food

They are also a large segment of the economy with largely low-paid labor. Since we find we can generally keep them open for take-out/delivery, there's a lot to be said for doing so.

If you don't mind me asking, how old are you? Your replies to several posts seem to lack life experience.

Um... that's not cool. It effectively amounts to, "You couldn't disagree with me unless you were naive," which is both a weak rhetorical stance, and rather unkind.

 

[FrogReaver]

It doesn't even matter if they kept their distance as they are still going outside for non-essential reasons.

In Canada we have orders to:

1. Only go out for essential supplies like grocery and pharmacy and to limit to 1x/week if possible.
2. Short walks in the neighbourhood alone or only with people living in the same household.

Only leave the house otherwise if doing essential work.

if these were the rules in U.S. then I would have no issue with churches being forced closed - because then only actual essential businesses and activities are being allowed.

We have a crazy definition in the U.S of what constitutes essential - which IMO is why you see some churches ignoring the restrictions because they actually don’t make much sense.

 

[The Green Hermit]

If your roof starts leaking, or your toilet fails, or the like, you need to be able to get things to keep it rolling.

You don't need to be able to put in that deck you always wanted, or do the spring landscaping planting. That stuff can wait, but is causing crowds in the big hardware stores.

Unless you need (not want) to sell your home and those added touches are needed in today's buyer's market. Believe it or not, there are a lot of properties for sale even in today's market -- at least in Washington State. Also, if you have to do serious repairs on your deck, it only makes sense to make the wanted improvements while you are at it.

There are also several instances where landscape planting IS necessary, especially for structural integrity. However, most plants and seeds can be ordered and delivered, so I do agree with you on not needing to go out and about for them.

Um... that's not cool. It effectively amounts to, "You couldn't disagree with me unless you were naive," which is both a weak rhetorical stance, and rather unkind.

I "ignored" him, so we won't have to irritate each other any more.

 

[FrogReaver]

Unless you need (not want) to sell your home and those added touches are needed in today's buyer's market. Believe it or not, there are a lot of properties for sale even in today's market -- at least in Washington State. Also, if you have to do serious repairs on your deck, it only makes sense to make the wanted improvements while you are at it.

And All of that can wait till this is over. There’s nothing immediately essential about any of it.

There are also several instances where landscape planting IS necessary, especially for structural integrity. However, most plants and seeds can be ordered and delivered, so I do agree with you on not needing to go out and about for them.

Almost everything can be ordered online. Which is another blow to the “essential” argument.

 

[Zardnaar]

Getting sick from Covid doesn't scare me much.

What comes afterwards does.

how much of that difference is because of the measures that have adopted relatively early on?

No idea. Corona doesn't seem that bad relative to previous pandemics. It's not good could be a lot worse.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

Getting sick from Covid doesn't scare me much. What comes afterwards does.
No idea. Corona doesn't seem that bad relative to previous pandemics. It's not good could be a lot worse.

What part of what comes afterwards worries you?

It's a terrible thing that we'll never know how bad it would have been if the world hadn't gone crazy about it. If all our "stay-at-home" measures work out, then they cause a situation that appears, on the surface, that the measures themselves were overreactions.

Unfortunately, the example of Sweden (that hasn't done much) won't ever indicate that their attitude would have worked anywhere else in the world (Sweden is a pretty unique place). Also, their reluctance to act might come to bite them terribly, as well.

Who knows, really? Maybe we could have just let it swathe its way across the planet while we all did litte-to-nothing to prevent it, and it could have wound up tolerable. Seems more likely that it would have been a terrible disaster.

 

[Zardnaar]

What part of what comes afterwards worries you?

It's a terrible thing that we'll never know how bad it would have been if the world hadn't gone crazy about it. If all our "stay-at-home" measures work out, then they cause a situation that appears, on the surface, that the measures themselves were overreactions.

Unfortunately, the example of Sweden (that hasn't done much) won't ever indicate that their attitude would have worked anywhere else in the world (Sweden is a pretty unique place). Also, their reluctance to act might come to bite them terribly, as well.

Who knows, really? Maybe we could have just let it swathe its way across the planet while we all did litte-to-nothing to prevent it, and it could have wound up tolerable. Seems more likely that it would have been a terrible disaster.

Afterwards great depression 2.0.

Economies are collapsing faster than they did in 1929. More than a few months it's looking worse than 1929.

Throw in food shortages which are already starting in parts and yeah.

Not such an issue here but it's gonna be overseas.

 

[The Green Hermit]

Washington State just closed on-site schooling until the end of the year, with the caveat that if things improve, we may go back for the last week or so.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

food is the only essential thing you mentioned - which would be grocery stores - not mconalds.

Around here, at least, hardware stores are a necessary resource for all kinds of construction & repair businesses. While there are specialty shops for certain supplies, plumbers, HVAC , and all kinds of repairmen shop at Home Depot, Lowe’s and Ace for nails, lumber, PVC, etc., just like the rest of us.

And not everyone out there cooks. I know too many people who don’t, and rely on takeout for most of their meals.

 

[Zardnaar]

Hardware stores and takeout are closed here. The stores can supply trades not the general public.

Tradies are only allowed to do essential work so if you want your bathroom renovated tough luck, they can fix your water/electricity/windows etc.