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D&D and the rising pandemic

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
I was listening to an old radio drama where there was a fictional (I think) substance that was a contact poison in its powder form, but not when it was mixed in water. So the way to use it diabolically was to carry it around diluted, paint it on what your target would touch, and then be sure not to touch it yourself after it dried. This got me thinking about cloth masks that are worn for a long time or reused without sitting several days. So, the mask does what we're hoping it does and catches the droplet with the virus because the droplet is well above the minimum size. After the droplet dries, is the virus just sitting on the mask and capable of getting inhaled through?

For other contaminants, yes. Like, say mold spores - if you wear a mask to protect yourself from mold, and then handle the mask afterwards, you can contaminate yourself.

Coronaviruses, however, are not hardy in that way. If the drops they are in dry out, they quickly die.

Mind you, some viruses do survive in such a state. Just not coronaviruses.
 

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Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
Just saw this. Hope things are still mild(or better) for you. Get well soon.

Well, for those curious-
Sunday I started to feel something.
Monday was rough, ESPECIALLY Monday night.
Tuesday morning tested positive.
Tuesday through Wednesday was like a bad cold.
Today I'm feeling better, with a lingering cough and slight congestion, but the headache and other symptoms are gone.
Currently planning on continuing the quarantine and re-testing Saturday, assuming our tests hold out until then.

But the area I am in is absolutely devastated right now. Luckily, we have a fairly high vax rate, but it is crazy with things shutting down, police escorts for testing sites, and so on. It's kind of surreal how quickly the post-holiday wave just crashed over us.

The high vax rate is the real saving grace, as there are a huge number of positives, but our medical situation is seriously strained right now, but not completely overwhelmed. That said, if you have something other than COVID, you're S.O.L.
 

Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
Well, for those curious-
Sunday I started to feel something.
Monday was rough, ESPECIALLY Monday night.
Tuesday morning tested positive.
Tuesday through Wednesday was like a bad cold.
Today I'm feeling better, with a lingering cough and slight congestion, but the headache and other symptoms are gone.
Currently planning on continuing the quarantine and re-testing Saturday, assuming our tests hold out until then.

But the area I am in is absolutely devastated right now. Luckily, we have a fairly high vax rate, but it is crazy with things shutting down, police escorts for testing sites, and so on. It's kind of surreal how quickly the post-holiday wave just crashed over us.

The high vax rate is the real saving grace, as there are a huge number of positives, but our medical situation is seriously strained right now, but not completely overwhelmed. That said, if you have something other than COVID, you're S.O.L.
I'm glad you are feeling better. And yes, it's just crazy how bad things became and how quickly it happened. My group is going back to virtual gaming for a while. It's just not worth the risk with literally everyone in the group knowing people who are getting covid and/or having close contacts.
 

CleverNickName

Limit Break Dancing
I'm glad you are feeling better. And yes, it's just crazy how bad things became and how quickly it happened. My group is going back to virtual gaming for a while. It's just not worth the risk with literally everyone in the group knowing people who are getting covid and/or having close contacts.
My gaming group is getting together tomorrow night for our annual "holiday" dinner and gift exchange (we do a Secret Santa thing every year). It's also the time of the year that we have our group discussion on the State of the Group where we talk about the campaign, changes we'd like to make, who's going to be the DM next, and all that.

(We're going about it as safely as we can, we are all getting tested beforehand and we'll be wearing masks and all that. )

One of the things I expect we are going to discuss, over various amounts of cheese and ham, is whether or not we were ready to go back to in-person gaming. But honestly, I don't think we ever will. We've been playing virtually for so long, that we're pretty comfortable with it...it's really convenient to not have to worry about traffic, parking, food, designated drivers, babysitters, etc. This most recent spike in Covid-19 cases isn't helping anyone feel safer, either, and nobody really thinks the pandemic is going to end anytime soon.

I predict that we will be a virtual group for at least another year, and possibly from now on.
 

Yes, I've been lucky with that thus far. When they first started selling them I bought tons of masks. I can't find them anywhere around here anymore, so what I have is it. I'm lucky that I still have a decent supply, but once it is gone I'll have to go online and see if I can somehow determine which are the official ones and which ones are not. It seems hard to figure it out from what I've seen.
Assuming you're in the US, to figure out if it's a NIOSH (National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health)-approved mask, look on the mask for a Testing & Certification approval number. Then you can check the CEL (Certified Equipment List) to confirm.



 

Well, for those curious-
Sunday I started to feel something.
Monday was rough, ESPECIALLY Monday night.
Tuesday morning tested positive.
Tuesday through Wednesday was like a bad cold.
Today I'm feeling better, with a lingering cough and slight congestion, but the headache and other symptoms are gone.
Currently planning on continuing the quarantine and re-testing Saturday, assuming our tests hold out until then.
If you do start to get worse at all, or have cause to see a doctor for any reason, be sure to have your O2 saturation checked. One of the worst things with Covid has been people having really impaired breathing and decreased lung function while only feeling "a little out of breath".

But the area I am in is absolutely devastated right now. Luckily, we have a fairly high vax rate, but it is crazy with things shutting down, police escorts for testing sites, and so on. It's kind of surreal how quickly the post-holiday wave just crashed over us.

The high vax rate is the real saving grace, as there are a huge number of positives, but our medical situation is seriously strained right now, but not completely overwhelmed. That said, if you have something other than COVID, you're S.O.L.
It's really rough. A friend of mine slipped and broke her arm yesterday (lovely freezing rain here), and when she went to the ER they initially told her it'd be a five hour wait. Thankfully they did get her in more quickly once the triage nurse was informed it was an acute serious injury.
 
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Ryujin

Legend
If you do start to get worse at all, or have cause to see a doctor for any reason, be sure to have your O2 saturation checked. One of the worst things with Covid has been people having really impaired breathing and decreased lung function while only feeling "a little out of breath".
It's precisely this symptom which makes me wonder if I didn't have Covid very early on, prior to the lockdown. During the preceding Jan/Feb I was feeling short of breath and tired easily. Other family members had the same symptoms.
 

It's precisely this symptom which makes me wonder if I didn't have Covid very early on, prior to the lockdown. During the preceding Jan/Feb I was feeling short of breath and tired easily. Other family members had the same symptoms.
It's possible, though I'm speaking specifically about a really serious symptom of lung damage, which doesn't resolve immediately or generally without assistance. It's scary in part because it doesn't FEEL as bad or dangerous as it is.

Have you felt more out of breath/easily winded ever since, or did you for a period of months?
 

Working at my university (in the SE US), it feels odd/sad to read about the lack of tests. Faculty and students here could do pretty much an unlimited number of saliva tests with no waiting and get the results back by the next morning at latest. It's sad that folks in general don't even have a meaningful fraction of that support.

Its very weird locally. Its not impossible to find a test, but if you don't have an HMO (where you can get it immediately but will likely have to deal with the usual "wait two hours to get it done) or are having to go to a hospital for something else, the wait times run around a week--which seems to defeat half the point.
 

@Umbran (and anyone else who might know/speculate off the top of their head).

I was listening to an old radio drama where there was a fictional (I think) substance that was a contact poison in its powder form, but not when it was mixed in water. So the way to use it diabolically was to carry it around diluted, paint it on what your target would touch, and then be sure not to touch it yourself after it dried. This got me thinking about cloth masks that are worn for a long time or reused without sitting several days. So, the mask does what we're hoping it does and catches the droplet with the virus because the droplet is well above the minimum size. After the droplet dries, is the virus just sitting on the mask and capable of getting inhaled through?

Technically for a bit, but a mask is usually a porous surface, so its survival time is fairly limited (I believe the listed best time is for non-porous materials and is up to 72 hours).
 

Ryujin

Legend
It's possible, though I'm speaking specifically about a really serious symptom of lung damage, which doesn't resolve immediately or generally without assistance. It's scary in part because it doesn't FEEL as bad or dangerous as it is.

Have you felt more out of breath/easily winded ever since, or did you for a period of months?
It lasted for about a month and a half, for me. At least a month for other family members. I have pre-existing issues due to several bouts of pneumonia, as a child, which could explain the longer duration.
 

It lasted for about a month and a half, for me. At least a month for other family members. I have pre-existing issues due to several bouts of pneumonia, as a child, which could explain the longer duration.
Well, I'm glad you folks are doing better! Definitely take care in the current wave. The curve is like a hockey stick right now, and I don't expect we'll see the other side of this peak until sometime in February.
 

Hussar

Legend
Yeah, but I didn't claim we were a country of folks who cared about each other, either.



I did not present the USA as a paragon of virtue here, so while knocking down the US on this may feel to you like it is knocking down my point, but you are attacking an unrelated strawman. Japan's workplace suicide rate is high enough to question whether it really has a culture of caring for one another, without any appearance of the US in the discussion.

And in this, we see why discussions go badly.
Heh, this is why reading further in a thread before responding is a must. I totally agree with you here and just spent a few minutes erasing my first, knee jerk response. :D
 

Baron Opal II

Adventurer
@Umbran (and anyone else who might know/speculate off the top of their head).

I was listening to an old radio drama where there was a fictional (I think) substance that was a contact poison in its powder form, but not when it was mixed in water. So the way to use it diabolically was to carry it around diluted, paint it on what your target would touch, and then be sure not to touch it yourself after it dried. This got me thinking about cloth masks that are worn for a long time or reused without sitting several days. So, the mask does what we're hoping it does and catches the droplet with the virus because the droplet is well above the minimum size. After the droplet dries, is the virus just sitting on the mask and capable of getting inhaled through?
It depends on the virus. If it dries completely out I believe the capsid breaks and the virus becomes inactive. It's why fomite transmission is considered poor for this virus, although not all enveloped viruses have the same vulnerability.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
So, for folks who like data, and want a way to think about how this current surge is going (at least here in Massachusetts), we can compare this year, to last.

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Data from: How this COVID surge compares to last winter, and when it could peak in Massachusetts
 

Hussar

Legend
I guess I'm just really, really frustrated with having to do the right thing all the time, and then watching people like those Canadian idiots in Mexico - Canadian Idiots Stranded in Mexico - basically act like spoiled children and screw things up for those of us who are actually trying to fix the problem.

If folks had just done what the doctors suggested TWO FREAKING YEARS AGO, we'd be out of this mess by now. Saying that it's "just a difference in culture" doesn't really help frankly. It would be nice if folks would just get with the program so we could finally put this crap behind us.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
I guess I'm just really, really frustrated with having to do the right thing all the time, and then watching people like those Canadian idiots in Mexico - Canadian Idiots Stranded in Mexico - basically act like spoiled children and screw things up for those of us who are actually trying to fix the problem.

If folks had just done what the doctors suggested TWO FREAKING YEARS AGO, we'd be out of this mess by now. Saying that it's "just a difference in culture" doesn't really help frankly. It would be nice if folks would just get with the program so we could finally put this crap behind us.

We are aware. Unfortunately NZ can't rule the world yet that's our long term plan.
 

Cadence

Legend
Supporter
So, for folks who like data, and want a way to think about how this current surge is going (at least here in Massachusetts), we can compare this year, to last.




Data from: How this COVID surge compares to last winter, and when it could peak in Massachusetts

Are the hospitalization numbers everyone at a hospital who has tested positive, or those with relevant hospital-worthy symptoms or follow-up conditions who tested positive?

Pre-omicron, the hospitalization numbers were what I looked to to see severity, but now I'm not sure. In any case, I continue to be appalled at what information we don't collect uniformly in the states.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
Gonna attempt a walk in booster tomorrow at 9am when they open.

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Tonight's yum yum. All the staff are masked and git vaccine passed for entry.

Still have to scan in on the phone the pass and location tracker are separate things. Phone gets scanned and you scam the QR code.

If they have Moderna gonna try that but it's probably Pfizer. Book in place offers AZ.
 


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