• The VOIDRUNNER'S CODEX is LIVE! Explore new worlds, fight oppressive empires, fend off fearsome aliens, and wield deadly psionics with this comprehensive boxed set expansion for 5E and A5E!

D&D Celebrity Satine Phoenix & Husband Jamison Stone Accused Of Abuse Towards Freelancers

D&D influencer Satine Phoenix, and her husband Jamison Stone, who run tabletop gaming company Apotheosis Studios, have been accused of abusive behavior towards freelancers and contracted workers. Satine Phoenix is a well-known D&D personality and creator, and was the D&D Community Manager for about a year back in 2018. Both she and Stone have appeared in many events and streaming shows, and...

Status
Not open for further replies.
D&D influencer Satine Phoenix, and her husband Jamison Stone, who run tabletop gaming company Apotheosis Studios, have been accused of abusive behavior towards freelancers and contracted workers.

Satine Phoenix is a well-known D&D personality and creator, and was the D&D Community Manager for about a year back in 2018. Both she and Stone have appeared in many events and streaming shows, and have worked with WotC, Geek & Sundry, and other companies. Recently their Kickstarter campaign Sirens: Battle of the Bards raised over $300,000. At GaryCon, a US gaming convention, the couple held a public wedding.

sirens.jpg

Accusations were initially leveled last week against Stone by tattooist Chad Rowe, who tweeted about the abusive way in which Stone, as his client at the time, treated him. The artist was "insulted, berated, and talked down to as if I was a lesser person". Other reports started to roll in as people shared similar experiences, with people revealing how they had been bullied by them, and how the pair frequently portrayed themselves as 'better' than those they worked with. At the time of writing there have been many such reports including one from voice actress and designer Liisa Lee who was subjected to underhanded business practices by Phoenix and her then partner Ruty Rutenberg. Others indicated difficulties in getting paid for work done for Stone and Phoenix or their company.

Lysa Penrose reported on problematic interactions while Phoenix worked at WotC, who was the primary point of contact regarding a report of abuse. Penrose reports that Phoenix failed to pass on the reports of abuse, and continued to publicly associate with the abuser.

Jamison Stone has since resigned as CEO of Apotheosis Studios (though the pair do own the company) and issued a long apology which has been widely criticized. Phoenix released a statement about a week later. Screenshots leaked from a private channel indicate that they have adopted a strategy of shifting the blame onto Stone, so that Phoenix's public image remain intact, with Stone writing “I also am ensuring behind the scenes ... we shield Satine as much as physically possible from damage.”

D&D In A Castle, which is an event which hosts D&D games run by professional DMs in a weekend break in a castle, has dropped the pair from its lineup, as has Jasper's Game Day, an organization which works to prevent suicides. Origins Game Fair, at which the couple are celebrity guests, removed Stone from its guest list, but not Phoenix, stating that "staff assessed that there was no immediate risk of physical harm".

According to ComicBook.com. former collaborator of Phoenix, Ruty Rutenberg, is suing Phoenix, alleging misappropriation of $40,000 of stream network Maze Arcana's money.
 

log in or register to remove this ad


log in or register to remove this ad

I grew up in a nice Catholic family and have been on the internet (and what was before) via slow dial-up modems. You used to be about to download sexy pictures in the form of text and use a program to turn it into the picture. I am not concerned that somehow Satine will cause kids to find porn, it is too easy to find otherwise.

I also think that speculating about what being in the industry may or may not have been like is speculating into the wind. Since she has not tried to hide her past career, and has not been hard to find and talk to in the past (may be laying low now), I recommend asking her if you are that curious.

Otherwise, the stories of her actual action or lack of action in the TTRPG industry is more relevant.
 
Last edited:


Sacrosanct

Legend
I mentioned upthread that Satine has said before that that point of her life was dark and she never wants to revisit it. I happen to think that telling someone they are prohibited from following their dream career because of what happened to them when they were young (sometimes not even their fault) is grossly unfair. I'm reminded of the attacks upon Sasha Grey and her new career.

If WotC needs to cut ties with her, it should be based on her actions and behavior towards people. Not based on a previous career.
 

bedir than

Full Moon Storyteller
This feels like a reminder D&D is best done by you and your friends by yourselves in whatever way you like it.
These were producers/managers/directors harming talent. The managerial level are, accusedly, so corrupt they prevented you from playing stories at the table because creators left the industry due to abuse and lack of payment.
 


Why did she keep her porn industry stage name and persona then? Why not go for a completely fresh start? She never had a complete break, since she went from the porn industry to D&D via Zak S’s “Playing D&D with Porn Stars” thing.


I am arguing that they shouldn’t use people involved in an industry that is known to be harmful to children to promote a game they market as being suitable to children. This is only an issue for me with Satine specifically because she didn’t ditch her association with the porn industry before she started working with/for WotC to promote D&D.
She was playing D&D before that show.

In my personal groups over the years I have had players from all walks of life. The fact that porn actors or actresses play D&D is not surprising to me.

Is the next attack going to be against Joe Manganiello because of Magic Mike being about male strippers?
 

Dire Bare

Legend
How does one oppose the evil that is pornography without coming across as sex shaming? I would genuinely like to know.

I don’t really care what Satine does with her body. I do care that WotC openly and knowingly associates with people using their adult film star personas to promote a game marketed for children.

Yes, 12 year olds can find pornography online without WotC’s help, but that too is part of the problem. The effects of pornography on children and teens is nothing but negative.

I view this as being the same as if WotC was using known tobacco, alcohol or gambling industry people to promote their game.

I hope this scandal does result in Satine disappearing from the D&D scene, and I hope it finally gives WotC pause to reconsider their continued association with toxic porn stars.
You can't, you are engaging in pure sex-shaming here. But, hard to continue this thread without debating the so-called "evils" of pornography and those who are a part of the industry.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
I have a low opinion of the porn industry and spent a couple of hours in March talking a younger online friend out of not doing it. The money isn't even that good.

It's predatory imho even if legal.

Anyway no idea who these two are I don't watch online D&D streamers or use Twitter at all. Sit back and watch the poo show.
 

Dire Bare

Legend
And now we have multiple cases of toxic people transitioning from the porn industry to the D&D/gaming industry.
We have two. Zak S. and Satine Phoenix. And their toxicity isn't due to their association with the adult industry.

And there are plenty of other toxic folks in the TTRPG industry that have never worked in the adult film industry. Jamison Stone is one, The RPG Pundit is another, the entire nu-TSR crew, the LotFP guy, and more . . .
 

Status
Not open for further replies.

Voidrunner's Codex

Remove ads

Voidrunner's Codex

Remove ads

Top