D&D Celebrity Satine Phoenix & Husband Jamison Stone Accused Of Abuse Towards Freelancers

D&D influencer Satine Phoenix, and her husband Jamison Stone, who run tabletop gaming company Apotheosis Studios, have been accused of abusive behavior towards freelancers and contracted workers. Satine Phoenix is a well-known D&D personality and creator, and was the D&D Community Manager for about a year back in 2018. Both she and Stone have appeared in many events and streaming shows, and...

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D&D influencer Satine Phoenix, and her husband Jamison Stone, who run tabletop gaming company Apotheosis Studios, have been accused of abusive behavior towards freelancers and contracted workers.

Satine Phoenix is a well-known D&D personality and creator, and was the D&D Community Manager for about a year back in 2018. Both she and Stone have appeared in many events and streaming shows, and have worked with WotC, Geek & Sundry, and other companies. Recently their Kickstarter campaign Sirens: Battle of the Bards raised over $300,000. At GaryCon, a US gaming convention, the couple held a public wedding.

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Accusations were initially leveled last week against Stone by tattooist Chad Rowe, who tweeted about the abusive way in which Stone, as his client at the time, treated him. The artist was "insulted, berated, and talked down to as if I was a lesser person". Other reports started to roll in as people shared similar experiences, with people revealing how they had been bullied by them, and how the pair frequently portrayed themselves as 'better' than those they worked with. At the time of writing there have been many such reports including one from voice actress and designer Liisa Lee who was subjected to underhanded business practices by Phoenix and her then partner Ruty Rutenberg. Others indicated difficulties in getting paid for work done for Stone and Phoenix or their company.

Lysa Penrose reported on problematic interactions while Phoenix worked at WotC, who was the primary point of contact regarding a report of abuse. Penrose reports that Phoenix failed to pass on the reports of abuse, and continued to publicly associate with the abuser.

Jamison Stone has since resigned as CEO of Apotheosis Studios (though the pair do own the company) and issued a long apology which has been widely criticized. Phoenix released a statement about a week later. Screenshots leaked from a private channel indicate that they have adopted a strategy of shifting the blame onto Stone, so that Phoenix's public image remain intact, with Stone writing “I also am ensuring behind the scenes ... we shield Satine as much as physically possible from damage.”

D&D In A Castle, which is an event which hosts D&D games run by professional DMs in a weekend break in a castle, has dropped the pair from its lineup, as has Jasper's Game Day, an organization which works to prevent suicides. Origins Game Fair, at which the couple are celebrity guests, removed Stone from its guest list, but not Phoenix, stating that "staff assessed that there was no immediate risk of physical harm".

According to ComicBook.com. former collaborator of Phoenix, Ruty Rutenberg, is suing Phoenix, alleging misappropriation of $40,000 of stream network Maze Arcana's money.
 

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MGibster

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I think it’s worth mentioning given that Satine has been using her porn star name and persona to promote a game that is marketed at children.
I watched a few videos from a series Satine hosted about running games and I thought it was pretty good. When I found out she had made adult movies, I didn't care in the least because there was nothing inappropriate in her GM advice videos. From what I understand, she first gained attention from gamers for her participation in an online video series where the premise was adult entertainers playing a D&D campaign. From there, she's pivoted. A lot of people who make adult films have a very difficult time transitioning to other lines of work, I'm not going to fault Satine for her transition to new material even if she kept the same name. If it was okay for Satine Phoenix to star in I Hit It with My Axe then I think it's okay for her to use that same persona.

Maybe I’m just a prude, but I’ve never been comfortable with the idea that some kid could watch official WotC-produced videos with Satine in them then Google her name to see what else is there and accidentally stumble across her adult film work. That doesn’t seem appropriate to me, and I’ve always been more than a little disappointed with WotC for being OK with it.
I imagine those same kids look at stuff on the internet all the time. Nobody's going to "stumble" across Satine's adult work. You're going to have to go out there and look for it.
 

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doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
I feel that Satine is a collaborator,
Absolutely. Not only that, but a direct bad actor in her own right.
especially considering they are married. It's hard to feign ignorance of the behavior of someone you're married to.
This part, though. Nah man. For every Marion Zimmer Bradley there are a hundred people, mostly women, who live in a state of fearful delusion about their spouse, and won’t ever see the truth until/unless they escape from them.

That doesn’t seem to be the case here, but regardless let’s not spread harmful nonsense like this, that is used to lump abuse survivors in with their abusers all the time.

She’s an abuser. Their marriage isn’t evidence of that.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
The porn industry certainly has it problems, and there are plenty of toxic individuals within it. As does the mainstream Hollywood film industry, and the music industry, and sadly, the TTRPG industry . . . .

But the idea that the entire adult film industry is toxic and manipulative is false, a misconception based on sex-shaming.

Can we stick to the very real behavior problems exhibited by Phoenix and Stone without devolving into prudish sex-shaming?
By all means, let's leave that aside as irrelevant to the behavior in question.
 

Synthil

Explorer
Can we stick to the very real behavior problems exhibited by Phoenix and Stone without devolving into prudish sex-shaming?

Indeed. Judge them for being naughty words not for using theirs to earn money.
It should be okay for kids to learn of the existence of the adult film industry and sex work in general. It doesn't mean they have to look at it. If an actor played in a 18+ horror movie, kids can also know about it, without having to watch the inappropriate movie.
 

Satine Phoenix is her stage name, she used it when she did porn, and continues to use it today. It is her chosen name. Shaming her for her past in the adult industry is uncool. Heck, if she were still involved in the adult industry, shaming for that would be uncool also.

An alternate POV is that Satine Phoenix is a brand. It's standard practice for media companies to use different brands for their adult and child products so both kids and parents can better identify what is appropriate material.

On her web page, Satine refers to herself as "the queen of D&D". D&D is a generally a kid friendly brand. Suggesting Satine use a different stage name for her RPG presence isn't sex shaming, it's just pointing out bad marketing. She should either align herself with the D&D brand better, separate herself from the D&D name more, or understand that she's going to end up with a certain number of annoyed customers. There are a lot of actors and musicians that perform under different stage names for exactly that reason, even when "adult entertainment" isn't part of the equation.
 

Dire Bare

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An alternate POV is that Satine Phoenix is a brand. It's standard practice for media companies to use different brands for their adult and child products so both kids and parents can better identify what is appropriate material.

On her web page, Satine refers to herself as "the queen of D&D". D&D is a generally a kid friendly brand. Suggesting Satine use a different stage name for her RPG presence isn't sex shaming, it's just pointing out bad marketing. She should either align herself with the D&D brand better, separate herself from the D&D name more, or understand that she's going to end up with a certain number of annoyed customers. There are a lot of actors and musicians that perform under different stage names for exactly that reason, even when "adult entertainment" isn't part of the equation.
It's her name. Yes, it's also a brand, but it's her name. And yes, suggesting she use a name other than her chosen name, because of it's association with her past adult work, is sex-shaming.

And for "bad marketing" . . . it's worked out just fine for her. If you put her toxic behaviors aside for a moment, she's a talented artist and fan-favorite within the D&D celeb sphere. Or, at least she was until her toxic behaviors came to light recently.
 


doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
It's her name. Yes, it's also a brand, but it's her name. And yes, suggesting she use a name other than her chosen name, because of it's association with her past adult work, is sex-shaming.

And for "bad marketing" . . . it's worked out just fine for her. If you put her toxic behaviors aside for a moment, she's a talented artist and fan-favorite within the D&D celeb sphere. Or, at least she was until her toxic behaviors came to light recently.
Hell her talent and charisma are why this took as long as it did.

I always figured the try-hard vibe from her was just a wounded person not being able to fully relax in the spotlight and just be, rather than trying to be cool and sexy and whatever. Seems like it was, instead, the fact that her kindness and empathy and “bring light and healing” brand was utter BS.
 


Yeah naw miss me with the shaming for adult film work.

But also miss me with any defenses of her. I wonder if she’s going to pull the “throw stone to the wolves so she can continue her brand” card.

Fully expect her to start claiming she’s being bullied even though she’s clearly part of many of these stories. she’s pulled that at least before.
 

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