D&D Celebrity Satine Phoenix & Husband Jamison Stone Accused Of Abuse Towards Freelancers

D&D influencer Satine Phoenix, and her husband Jamison Stone, who run tabletop gaming company Apotheosis Studios, have been accused of abusive behavior towards freelancers and contracted workers. Satine Phoenix is a well-known D&D personality and creator, and was the D&D Community Manager for about a year back in 2018. Both she and Stone have appeared in many events and streaming shows, and...

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D&D influencer Satine Phoenix, and her husband Jamison Stone, who run tabletop gaming company Apotheosis Studios, have been accused of abusive behavior towards freelancers and contracted workers.

Satine Phoenix is a well-known D&D personality and creator, and was the D&D Community Manager for about a year back in 2018. Both she and Stone have appeared in many events and streaming shows, and have worked with WotC, Geek & Sundry, and other companies. Recently their Kickstarter campaign Sirens: Battle of the Bards raised over $300,000. At GaryCon, a US gaming convention, the couple held a public wedding.

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Accusations were initially leveled last week against Stone by tattooist Chad Rowe, who tweeted about the abusive way in which Stone, as his client at the time, treated him. The artist was "insulted, berated, and talked down to as if I was a lesser person". Other reports started to roll in as people shared similar experiences, with people revealing how they had been bullied by them, and how the pair frequently portrayed themselves as 'better' than those they worked with. At the time of writing there have been many such reports including one from voice actress and designer Liisa Lee who was subjected to underhanded business practices by Phoenix and her then partner Ruty Rutenberg. Others indicated difficulties in getting paid for work done for Stone and Phoenix or their company.

Lysa Penrose reported on problematic interactions while Phoenix worked at WotC, who was the primary point of contact regarding a report of abuse. Penrose reports that Phoenix failed to pass on the reports of abuse, and continued to publicly associate with the abuser.

Jamison Stone has since resigned as CEO of Apotheosis Studios (though the pair do own the company) and issued a long apology which has been widely criticized. Phoenix released a statement about a week later. Screenshots leaked from a private channel indicate that they have adopted a strategy of shifting the blame onto Stone, so that Phoenix's public image remain intact, with Stone writing “I also am ensuring behind the scenes ... we shield Satine as much as physically possible from damage.”

D&D In A Castle, which is an event which hosts D&D games run by professional DMs in a weekend break in a castle, has dropped the pair from its lineup, as has Jasper's Game Day, an organization which works to prevent suicides. Origins Game Fair, at which the couple are celebrity guests, removed Stone from its guest list, but not Phoenix, stating that "staff assessed that there was no immediate risk of physical harm".

According to ComicBook.com. former collaborator of Phoenix, Ruty Rutenberg, is suing Phoenix, alleging misappropriation of $40,000 of stream network Maze Arcana's money.
 

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mythago

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I'd like to think Greg listened to the wrong side in a "she said, she said" scenario and was misled.

This is how it keeps happening, you know?

Abusers and creeps bank on this. They slither in between the gaps in "everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt" and "never presume malice instead of ignorance". They know that most people dislike confrontation, and would rather make excuses and hope for the best than take the effort to make difficult choices.
 

Umbran

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If you have grown up and seen abusers first hand, its pretty easy to spot those types.
If you are self absorbed though, you probably won't spot it.
Mod Note:
1) If you cannot make your point without being personally insulting, your point is pretty weak, and you probably shouldn't make it. If you can make it without being insulting, next time do it that way instead.

2) You are spreading misinformation - abusers are generally very good at covering their nature in public. Otherwise, we could deal with them early, and nobody would get hurt.

The combination here is highly detrimental to the discussion. Do not continue in this vein, please and thanks.
 

Greggy C

Hero
So you do think that walking by the wedding party taints me. And, I must admit, Thursday was my AL day so I was walking to a 5e D&D game. One that Mearls worked on, Satine was the community manager for in 2016 (that is a guess from memory) and that two other evil OSR personalities consulted on and were given credit in the rulebook.

I would be careful, though. Your wide net accusations may sweep you up as well as you are posting in the same thread that I am.
I'm way too old "to be careful". I have no stake in this less than professional "industry". If you want to vigorously defend Mike Mearls and WOTC behaviour, knock yourself out. I do not care.


Goodbye.
 


Parmandur

Book-Friend
This is how it keeps happening, you know?

Abusers and creeps bank on this. They slither in between the gaps in "everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt" and "never presume malice instead of ignorance". They know that most people dislike confrontation, and would rather make excuses and hope for the best than take the effort to make difficult choices.
I mean, the trouble is thst if you do the opposite, things are even worse and more toxic. Making the world safe for people to come forward is the way to enact paoitive change, not assuming that everyone who associates with abusers at any level is morally complicit.

I mean, Tito may be morally complicit, but we can't assume that sight unseen.
 

What baffles me, is that they would risk their own career and reputation by not paying the people they hire. Sure, it will get one product out quick and cheap by not paying your artist... but then they'll never work for you again. Surely you want to keep producing products?

Apart from just common decency, why would you burn your bridges like that? If you find yourself a good artist, surely you'd like to keep them around for your next project? But instead they just keep burning through new artists, screwing all of them over, and burning that bridge. Eventually word starts getting around.

Even if you are the most unpleasant, selfish influencer, and a rotten person behind the scenes... that just seems rather short sighted.
 

jdrakeh

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What baffles me, is that they would risk their own career and reputation by not paying the people they hire. Sure, it will get one product out quick and cheap by not paying your artist... but then they'll never work for you again. Surely you want to keep producing products?

Apart from just common decency, why would you burn your bridges like that? If you find yourself a good artist, surely you'd like to keep them around for your next project? But instead they just keep burning through new artists, screwing all of them over, and burning that bridge. Eventually word starts getting around.

Even if you are the most unpleasant, selfish influencer, and a rotten person behind the scenes... that just seems rather short sighted.

As a friend of mine likes to say, I think they were "huffing their own farts" (i.e. they believed their own myth about how influential and powerful they were in the industry; that they were essentially untouchable and could destroy anybody who spoke out against them).
 

Umbran

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What baffles me, is that they would risk their own career and reputation by not paying the people they hire. Sure, it will get one product out quick and cheap by not paying your artist... but then they'll never work for you again. Surely you want to keep producing products?

The simplest reason would be that they couldn't pay, for some reason. Like, the project was poorly managed, the money mis-spent, or similar.
 


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