D&D Movie/TV D&D Movie Hit or Flop?

[Mistwell]

HSX.com currently predicts it will make about $225,420,000 Domestic over the first four weeks of release. They predict an $83.5M opening weekend (Domestic).

 

[Zardnaar]

HSX.com currently predicts it will make about $225,420,000 Domestic over the first four weeks of release.

Still this on the edge depending on how big the marketing budget is. Which we don't know ATM AFAIK.

 

[Mistwell]

Still this on the edge depending on how big the marketing budget is. Which we don't know ATM AFAIK.

No, it's not. That's Domestic-only. That would be fine. Plus I don't think that number is the budget-only number (see below post).

 

[Mistwell]

Budget is $151M confirmed in a Variety article today.

Sort-of. They say it's a "$151M film." Which might be strictly budget, but might also be budget plus marketing and distribution fees. The way they said it is unclear. Most sources list "US $45 million budget" which leads me to believe $151M is the total of all associated costs including international distribution and marketing.

 

[Zardnaar]

Sort-of. They say it's a "$151M film." Which might be strictly budget, but might also be budget plus marketing and distribution fees. The way they said it is unclear. Most sources list "US $45 million budget" which leads me to believe $151M is the total of all associated costs including international distribution and marketing.

If the 151 million includes marketing it shifted the number to around 300 million.

It does depend on if it includes the marketing costs, if the projection holds, and where and how much the foreign box office is.

That's a lot of ifs.

 

[bedir than]

Most sources list "US $45 million budget"

These sources think that a movie in 2023 is being released with the same budget as the 2000 D&D movie. They aren't to be trusted.

They also think a movie featuring multiple big name actors is that cheap. Anyone who thinks someone who books 10 mill+ isn't a big star in this era isn't paying attention to what stars make now. Pine was paid 11.5 mill for the role.

Or Michelle Rodriguez makes about 5 million per film, which is rather small consider the massive franchises she's been in, but also quite large for a woman in Hollywood.

Hugh Grant's minimum per role is 5 million.

These are names with Q ratings that establish franchises. The younger actors in the party are already launching franchises. It is more likely that the cast itself cost 45 million than the whole film cost 45 million.

Why do people keep insisting that actors who've been in franchises worth billions, as leads, aren't big names?

 

[Clint_L]

Why do people keep insisting that actors who've been in franchises worth billions, as leads, aren't big names?

It's not just being in a franchise, it's what you did, and how recent/hot the franchise is. Michelle Rodriguez is primarily known for the Furious films, but not as a lead. In terms of large franchises, Pine is known as a lead for the rebooted Star Trek films, which are a second tier franchise, and for a co-starring (but not really) role in the Wonder Woman films. Pine would be a significant lead, but at the same time he's not Duane Johnson, Robert Downey Jr., etc. Hugh Grant has had a stellar career but folks who go to this sort of film aren't going because they need to see Hugh Grant.

There's big names and there's Big Names. None of these are names that move the dial a ton when it comes to opening weekend box office. In Hollywood terms, they aren't that bankable (truly bankable stars are a short list).

This article is a few months old, but note that none of the D&D actors are included:

The World’s Most Bankable Actors Right Now – 24/7 Wall St.

When movie makers are casting for a film, an actor’s box office performance in previous films as well as his or her fitness for a role is considered. And besides the ability to draw at the domestic box office, studios also have to weigh an actor’s bankability worldwide. To determine the most...

247wallst.com

 

[Zardnaar]

It's not just being in a franchise, it's what you did, and how recent/hot the franchise is. Michelle Rodriguez is primarily known for the Furious films, but not as a lead. In terms of large franchises, Pine is known as a lead for the rebooted Star Trek films, which are a second tier franchise, and for a co-starring (but not really) role in the Wonder Woman films. Pine would be a significant lead, but at the same time he's not Duane Johnson, Robert Downey Jr., etc. Hugh Grant has had a stellar career but folks who go to this sort of film aren't going because they need to see Hugh Grant.

There's big names and there's Big Names. None of these are names that move the dial a ton when it comes to opening weekend box office. In Hollywood terms, they aren't that bankable (truly bankable stars are a short list).

This article is a few months old, but note that none of the D&D actors are included:

The World’s Most Bankable Actors Right Now – 24/7 Wall St.

When movie makers are casting for a film, an actor’s box office performance in previous films as well as his or her fitness for a role is considered. And besides the ability to draw at the domestic box office, studios also have to weigh an actor’s bankability worldwide. To determine the most...

247wallst.com

That and I read an article once on Chris Pine. Outside of Star Trek his movies don't make big money.

Michelle has been a supporting actor for most of her career.

Both are past their prime and both weren't that big to begin with.

 

[mamba]

Sort-of. They say it's a "$151M film." Which might be strictly budget, but might also be budget plus marketing and distribution fees. The way they said it is unclear. Most sources list "US $45 million budget" which leads me to believe $151M is the total of all associated costs including international distribution and marketing.

45 is the year 2000 movie and wrongly reported everywhere. This movie is 151, I assume excluding marketing

 

[bedir than]

That and I read an article once on Chris Pine. Outside of Star Trek his movies don't make big money.

Michelle has been a supporting actor for most of her career.

Both are past their prime and both weren't that big to begin with.

Paid 11+ million per movie is not "past his prime."
He was so beloved in Wonder Woman 1 that they added him to WW84 ruining the plot, just so you could see him again.