D&D Movie/TV D&D Movie Hit or Flop?

[bedir than]

It was less than that iirc we could both be right unless of you're referring to domestic only.

62.7% domestic

Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves

www.boxofficemojo.com

There's no transparency on international weekend drop, mostly because it is a useless number as release dates varied.

So, once again, your claim that it didn't have a large drop is wrong.

 

[Mistwell]

Perhaps true but I think people are using the pandemic as a crutch.

It's literally from the horses mouth, about this movie. There is no "perhaps" at this point.

 

[Mistwell]

People are over estimating the money from streaming.

You have no actual evidence to support this claim. Your support is your speculation, while we've quoted professionals in the industry who disagree with your speculation. We also have both the WGA and SAG/AFTRA collectively arguing you're wrong right now about that point. When pressed for you to support your claim, you offer more speculation.

 

[Mistwell]

You keep, routinely and regularly, conflating a streamer or production company "losing money on streaming" with a movie losing money on streaming.
This is not the same thing. Claiming that these are the same is as valid as saying that since there has been more box office revenue in all theaters this year when compared to 2019 in total that all movies have been profitable.
It's not rational.

I've made that point to him before, he ignored it before, at this point it's willful. He has an agenda.

 

[Zardnaar]

I've made that point to him before, he ignored it before, at this point it's willful. He has an agenda.

To be fair you cant prove your cla8ms either.

I did post earlier the amounts paid for movies via streaming and its unlikely HAT will get what's required. It's not a box office hot, paid to go direct to streaming nor some large directors pet project and the studio and streamer are one and the same

I've also repeatedly stated its not impossible it gets a sequel.

Movie flopped at the box office and the CEO directly saying if a sequel ever gets nmae they have to do it cheaper.

That's not a great vote of confidence. Since no one has the exact figures possibly even the studio (how to you assign exact value from streaming hours?) what information we have available cant be spun as good.Its also been reported as a flop via a site you used yourself. All you did was attack the author ironically from same site.

As for accusing others of an agenda may want to look in the mirror when you're basically refusing to look at the available evidence or cross referencing similar movies and their performance.

If it was that successful a sequel would spread be announced.

 

[Zardnaar]

62.7% domestic

Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves

www.boxofficemojo.com

There's no transparency on international weekend drop, mostly because it is a useless number as release dates varied.

So, once again, your claim that it didn't have a large drop is wrong.

I was referencing the total box office.

It took 3 weeks to pass its production budget. It got 71 million total week 1 people were very excited because they thought it's a large number (it's not for a 200+ million movie)

They got over 150 million in 3 weeks (total).

That's not a 67% drop each week.

John Wick was used earlier as example of hit movie. It made its production budget week 1.

Arguments only started once people realized it wasn't a box office hit. Some people genuinely thought it was gonna make 400 million+.

HAT was in trouble week 1, performed as a typical movie in terms of drop off, domestic vs international, when it got its box office etc. Main problem was not enough bums on seats week one needed almost double.

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

Let's remember this is not only the money in the box office, but the future value of the franchise. It is about if the movie has been useful to "break the ice" or "to open doors". Are there now more videogame studios calling to Hasbro to create a new D&D videogame or a collab?

 

[Zardnaar]

No idea BG3 has a bit of hype behind it

 

[bedir than]

I was referencing the total box office.

when talking about the opening week to week two drop, the common parlance being "dropoff" you were actually talking about the week 3 and 4 drop?

 

[Mistwell]

To be fair you cant prove your cla8ms either.

Of course I can. The point being made is "conflating a streamer or production company "losing money on streaming" with a movie losing money on streaming." Yes, absolutely that's provable. You have ADMITTED some movies have done well on streaming, from the very streaming services which overall are losing money, which proved that point. You went into quite the detail on the sale of a movie to I think it was Netflix which was quite a tidy profit for the seller. Losing money on streaming overall as a platform is not the same as a movie losing money on streaming. It is, and always was, a bad point.

I did post earlier the amounts paid for movies via streaming and its unlikely HAT will get what's required.

Thank you for again admitting that a streamer or production company "losing money on streaming" is not the same as a movie losing money on streaming.

I get you think that's not the case with this Dungeons and Dragons movie, but we're talking about you as a matter of routine conflating those two concepts. If the basis of your argument is wrong, it's going to remain wrong when applied to any movie because it was wrong to begin with. How a streaming platform does in general is not related to how a particular movie does in streaming.

[Cut a bunch of stuff that amounted to you saying "Look, a monkey!" and running away from the point we were discussing.]

Nothing you said had anything to do with this one point we're discussing about you conflating streaming platform performance with particular movie performance in streaming.