D&D 5E Daggers, Knives, and Darts...... Are there no Knives in 5E....?!?!?!

[Mirtek]

I think the real issue here is that if the book doesn't even have knives, there's no chance that there's going to be spoons, and certainly not forks.

So you say there is no spoon?

 

[BoldItalic]

I think the real issue here is that if the book doesn't even have knives, there's no chance that there's going to be spoons, and certainly not forks.

Forks in 5e are called tridents.

Oh, that's not what you meant.

 

[S'mon]

I was going to get all indignant, then Wikipedia proved [MENTION=463]S'mon[/MENTION] right (if you accept wiki as a definitive source).

I miss my 1d10/2d8 sword though... *snif*

I was going by my extensive study of Scholagladiatoria Youtube channel (highly recommended!).

 

[Baumi]

Just wanted to add that it is hard to give just one stat for knifes, because they fill quite a big category! They range from as small as a butter knfe to the size of smallwords and even bigger ones!

http://www.darkwoodarmory.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=523

Swords were often regulated, but knifes wer ok .. so they made knives (where only one side is sharp) bigger. These Medieval Folk were true Munchkins

 

[Greenstone.Walker]

Ah, thanks for that! I appreciate your answers. Sadly, they're not the *right* answers. And by that I mean, whoever designed 5E wasn't detailed enough to get the job done.

The people who designed D&D 5E were not designing a combat simulator. The combat system they designed has some complexity, but not much. It allows for some tactical choices without being overwhelming.

As far as detail, D&D breaks weapons down into three general groups: size, damage, skill.

Size: Light, one-handed, versatile, two-handed, heavy.
Damage: bludgeoning, piercing, slashing.
Skill: Simple, martial.

To use the OP's example, a dagger is a light piercing simple weapon. Whether you call it a dagger or a knife or a stiletto isn't really relevant. What is relevant is that it is the smallest (1d4 damage) stabbing weapon. If you want a more stabby damage then you go for a martial weapon (short sword, 1d6 damage) or a bigger weapon (javelin, 1d6 damage).

However, not every combination is covered. There are no one-handed slashing weapons, for example. There are also no two-handed slashing weapons either.

Some categories are overcovered. For example, there are two versatile martial slashing weapons (longsword and battleaxe). There are three one-handed martial piercing weapons (morningstar, rapier, pick). There are minor differences in weight and price but otherwise, no reason to choose a pick over a morningstar, or an axe over a sword. Then again, rapier is a finese weapon, so for a DEX-based combatant, there's no reason to ever pick the others.

I have been playing for a while with a simplified weapon table, where you pick a size, damage and type, and then just call it what you want. So, instead of choosing "spear", you choose "medium, piercing, martial", and call it a "spear" or "short pike" or "assegai" or "spike staff" or whatever you want.

D&D doesn't really need any more complexity. All you need is "how many hands does it take to use it?", "what amount and type of damage does it do?", and "do I need martial proficiency?".

 

[Rya.Reisender]

However, not every combination is covered. There are no one-handed slashing weapons, for example. There are also no two-handed slashing weapons either.

Not sure what you mean but there are plenty of slashing weapons that are one-handed and there are plenty of slashing weapons that are two-handed.

 

[psychophipps]

I think it's obvious that there are plenty of knives around in D&D. That said, if you want an actual weapon instead of a basic household tool, there is a listing for Daggers.

 

[fjw70]

The OP probably doesn't like that there is no bastard sword or broadsword on the list either.

 

[steeldragons]

So, I was looking at the weapon list for 5E and found the Dagger and the Dart, but not the Knife. Are knives gone?


Also, what is the effective ranges for the 3 different weapons?


What is the rate of fire?


Does weapon specialization exist in 5E?


Thanks!!!!

I basically just consider "darts" to be interchangeable with those small throwing blades/knives (like in the comic and stuff that people can throw, like, 3 at once perfectly accurately).

So, if someone wants an assassin/rogue/whatever character who's winging knives around, they're using "darts" (and receiving dart +Dex. damage, as normal).

 

[Dausuul]

The Martial Adept Feat allows any character to use a pair of maneuvers from the Battle Master's list.

Which brings up a question for me: Can the Martial Adept Feat be taken more than once?

By the rules, you can't take any feat more than once unless the feat specifically allows it. That said, I doubt there would be any problems allowing a character to double up on Martial Adept.