D&D 5E (2014) Dark Sun, problematic content, and 5E…

[ECMO3]

You're right on a lot of counts. I want to add though, that despite the increase in energy use, CO2 emissions per capita in the US is about 50% below its peak, which was in the 70s. Its now about the same as in the 1960s and, surprisingly, the 1920s. But that is just a part of the story, and it reflects broad scale improvements in technology more so than changes to individual choices.

With the same CO2 emissions per capita and roughly 100% more people, you end up twice as much CO2 pollution coming from people today than from people in that time period, and this is before we consider other greenhouse gasses.

 

[bedir than]

The part I find difficult to understand is the criteria for establishing that something is potentially problematic because it lends itself to a lot of subjectivity.

The easiest way to understand this concept is to study it, to understand that expertise is possible and to trust the experts.

It is not a situation of catering to every single potentially offended person.

 

[MGibster]

The easiest way to understand this concept is to study it, to understand that expertise is possible and to trust the experts.

Who are these experts with the ability to tell us what is and isn't problematic?

 

[bedir than]

Who are these experts with the ability to tell us what is and isn't problematic?

This is mostly a set of links related to accessibility in gaming, but it's a start.
Then there's the various studies on the now-maligned concept of systemic racism or critical race theory.

The thing is, these concepts are neither new nor unstudied.

Expertise is possible. Education is possible.

 

[MGibster]

This is mostly a set of links related to accessibility in gaming, but it's a start.
Then there's the various studies on the now-maligned concept of systemic racism or critical race theory.

The thing is, these concepts are neither new nor unstudied.

Expertise is possible. Education is possible.

It still leads itself to a lot of subjectivity. Even if we all agree on what's problematic there's no objective way to decide how to handle it.

 

[Zardnaar]

It still leads itself to a lot of subjectivity. Even if we all agree on what's problematic there's no objective way to decide how to handle it.

Hence rating system.

Art should be offensive and push boundaries imho. Leave it up to the consumer to make the decision what's comfortable for them. Not talking about the worst stuff that's illegal.

1990s Darksun at worst is PG rated if it was a movie. BG3 had worse content in it so I don't think one can claim Darksun that bad now if BG3 acceptable.

You're never going to make 100% people happy.

 

[bedir than]

It still leads itself to a lot of subjectivity. Even if we all agree on what's problematic there's no objective way to decide how to handle it.

There doesn't need to be an objective way.

There needs to be a way that is consistent and coherent.

 

[LordEntrails]

In a historical book or textbook no.

Wait, do I understand that academic sources should not address problematic content? That history books should talk about racism or eugenics or you know, actual history? Surely I'm misunderstanding what you were saying.

 

[MGibster]

1990s Darksun at worst is PG rated if it was a movie. BG3 had worse content in it so I don't think one can claim Darksun that bad now if BG3 acceptable.

I think that's basically it. Probably the best argument I've heard against the problematic elements of Dark Sun is that children play D&D. I just don't think there's anything in Dark Sun that's particular harmful to children.

 

[Zardnaar]

I think that's basically it. Probably the best argument I've heard against the problematic elements of Dark Sun is that children play D&D. I just don't think there's anything in Dark Sun that's particular harmful to children.

Well with what kids can consume these days on their phones Darksun is a nothing burger lol.