Deities & Demigods

[rounser]

Murlynd made a spoon, and for this he becomes a god?

I believe Roger Moore once posted this to rec.games.frp.dnd (for those unfamiliar with Murlynd, he's known for having a pair of six-shooters):

Elminster: Yo! What manner of worthless being art thou? I challenge ye to a du - -
Murlynd: (BANG!)
Elmunster: (gasp, choke)..wretch! Thou hast undone - -
Murlynd (BANG! BANG!..BANG!)
Elmonster: (silence)

That's gotta be worth at least quasi-godhood, AFAIC.

"what does that make Kwalish?"

Er...a fan of vaguely lobster-like things?

 

[Vaeron]

Sure you can add a fighter level to a kobold using the monster manual, but can you make the kobold race from stratch without the dragon article? No, It seems pretty clear that DaD was intended to be a monster manual of sorts. You can modify the "monsters" they present to you, but not make your own. Each God is not handled like a character, more like a unique monster.

Did you see the D&DG web enhancement? It shows diety progression at each level. Firstly, gods get 1 point ability enhancement to one of their ability scores at each level of divine rank. So a god with all 30's as a score could change 1 to 31 upon gaining a new divine rank. Spell-like abilities (cast at the caster level of 10+divine rank) are, quite simply, the bonus spells granted by each of the gods granted Domains. For example, a divine rank 1 god with Healing, Protection, and Good would have 27 spell-like abilities (the 9 per domain as per the PHB) cast as a 10th (+ divine rank, in this case 11th) level caster with a DC of 17 (+divine rank +spell level, in this case 18+spell level).

Ex: Let's make a NE divine rank 4 demi-god of Rot and Desecration with the domains of Death, Destruction and Evil. His spell-like abilities, cast at 14th level with a DC of 21+spell level, would be: Cause Fear, Death Knell, Animate Dead, Death Ward, Slay Living, Create Undead, Destruction, Create Greater Undead, Wail of the Banshee, Inflict Light Wounds, Shatter, Contagion, Inflict Critical Wounds, Circle of Doom, Harm, Disintegrate, Earthquake, Implosion, Protection from Good, Desecrate, magic Circle against Good, Unholy Blight, Dispel Good, Create Undead, Blasphemy, Unholy Aura, Summon Monster IX.

Attack Bonus is the attack bonus of each class cumulative, plus outsider BAB if applicable, plus strength bonus, plus divine rank. Everything is simply modified by divine rank. Fire resistance is 20+divine rank. Skills are normal as per class, plus ability score modifier, plus divine rank (again). AC scales in a strange way I'm not really sure of. SR is 32+divine rank for quasi-lesser gods, then leaps up a lot after that (not sure on the details), and Damage reduction is similarly 35+divine rank for gods of that level.

Ex: Our demi-god of Desecration might be a 20 necromancer / 10 Blackguard. He has 28 Strength, 32 Intelligence, 40 Constitution, and 24 in everything else. He wields a +4 unholy mace of wounding. We're assuming he's of human origin and consequently has no outsider hit dice. His BAB is +37/+32/+27/+22 (+10 for blackguard, +10 for necromancer, +9 for strength, +4 for divine rank, +4 for his mace). His Fire Resistance is 24, Spell Resistance is 36, and Damage Reduction is 39/+4. His hitpoints are 555 (10d10 + 150 (blackguard and con) 20d4 + 300 ( necromancer and con).

Additionally, dieties can see, feel and touch a divine rank number of miles, etc. etc. etc. Compare a couple of the given examples in Dragon magazine, the sneak peak and the Web Enhancement and you'll see how easy it actually is to concoct these guys. The minimum stat level for any god seems to be 24, and MOST quasi/demi-gods I've seen in sneak peeks and such seem to start out with one score around 40, one around 31, and one around 26 based on their specific domains. ie, god of strength will have strength as highest, cleric gods will have wisdom and probably char highest. It's eee-zay. And having just whipped up this demigod of Rot and Desecration in the 20 minutes or so I spent on this, I have to say it's actually kinda fun too. I like the lil feller already.

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[Darkness]

You see, I've played a lot of epic games, and every game system I've ever played has problems with handling higher power levels.

Myself, I like Exalted...


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